Simply ban the use of Brazilian Soya

Sid

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wasnt fish meal used years ago for protein in animal feed ? i seem to remember the first farmers weeklys i read back in the 1970s had ads for it, maybe a stupid question but why cant our fishing industry use the waste thats being thrown back into the sea ?
It was actually a good feed source for dairy cows.

BUT is it right to feed an animal a source of feed it wouldn't naturally consume? Meat and bone meal being another example.
 

neilo

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Montgomeryshire
wasnt fish meal used years ago for protein in animal feed ? i seem to remember the first farmers weeklys i read back in the 1970s had ads for it, maybe a stupid question but why cant our fishing industry use the waste thats being thrown back into the sea ?

If it wasn’t thrown back and it had a value, then even more would be landed.
Quotas came in to curtail overfishing. Giving that ‘waste’ a value would mean it happened again.

Fishmeal was certainly a valuable protein source, but got thrown out with the meat & bone meal ban after BSE.
 

oil barron

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Of course, the BBC has to get their little dig in at meat aswell.
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Dead Rabbits

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Always a lot of talk on banning things on here. What would you be hoping to achieve? Can you even tell origin of soybeans? They could just shuffle things around a bit at a different port and say they can from there.

We have plenty of soybeans here to send ya if the South American ones aren’t any good.
 

Bramble

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Always a lot of talk on banning things on here. What would you be hoping to achieve? Can you even tell origin of soybeans? They could just shuffle things around a bit at a different port and say they can from there.

We have plenty of soybeans here to send ya if the South American ones aren’t any good.

With our farm assurance schemes over here there‘s no way ‘shuffling things round at different ports’ would get past our inspectors. Or maybe they would just ask no questions, so long as it was cheap and someone had paid to buy the right stickers
 

Ffermer Bach

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Of course, the BBC has to get their little dig in at meat aswell.
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Whoever in the BBC wrote that should read these


 

Dead Rabbits

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'Merica
With our farm assurance schemes over here there‘s no way ‘shuffling things round at different ports’ would get past our inspectors. Or maybe they would just ask no questions, so long as it was cheap and someone had paid to buy the right stickers
It shows up on a boat in a port. Brazil maybe not so well known for their lack of corruption.
 

Sid

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Livestock Farmer
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South Molton
It's in everything Inc bread !
Over the past decade, soy has become quite popular in cosmetic products for a variety of uses. It contains a soybean trypsin inhibitor (STI) and a Bowman-Birk inhibitor (BBI), both of which help to lighten skin and reduce unwanted body hair.

And in makeup, and look at how many put it on with a trowel!
 
I put this analysis up in another thread.

I think I may have answered one of my own questions to Joseph Poore in this report: https://www.transportenvironment.or...0_11_Study_Cerulogy_soy_and_deforestation.pdf It does seems that the fraction is 60% animal feed value, 40% human. Even so, I'd like to know the maths in the model he used to allocate deforestation to food products because there is so much uncertainty about the drivers for deforestation and the initial use vs eventual use of the deforested land.



"The global soy market The soy crop is primarily an animal feed crop. While about 2% of global production is consumed directly by humans in products such as tofu Goldsmith (2008), about 90% of the global crop is crushed to produce soy meal for animal feed and soy oil, with the remainder fed to animals directly as soybeans OECD-FAO (2020). The price of soybean oil is higher (per unit mass) than that of soybean meal, but as shown in Figure 27 the meal still provides most of the value from the soybean crush because more meal is produced. Meal accounted for about two thirds of the value on average across the 20-year period shown."

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