Skilled operator advert, £20,000 a year?

[steveR]

I suggested someone might be interested in a job share so I could do say six am until twelve, then they could do twelve to six. Was as if I'd just shat in their mouths. Ffs. Was only on a production line.

Surprising... if it's zero hour contract, they usually like short houred employees I thought?

 

[steveR]

Very much doubt they will get one applicant for that. We advertised at £30,000 per year for 39 hour per week (no overtime available) and had a couple apply who were not suitable anyway. Nobody wants the work and I think we are not far off having to pay £20/hour to get anybody decent to be honest. Its at that point we will all have to take a long hard look at our business's and wonder whether its worth the hassle and fallowing on ELMS will be easier and then use contractors for any work.

Spot on, lots looking at their business and coming to a similiar conclusion.

It would be fun to enquire about the Position and ask was there a typo error on the payment.... See what reaction is got!!

 

[steveR]

I did manage to get part time at Siemens, 3 days a week before I packed it in completely. I worked as a self employed contractor. It was difficult though with the 2 days on the farm generally being by Sod’s law wet and windy and then it being fine while sat in the office at Lincoln. It was awkward with deliveries and phone calls. Really need something that can be done from home so can nip out into the yard when needed or lay the work aside on a sunny farming day. Making chicken arks? Software programming? Proof reading?

Sounded like me when I took a sabbatical from farming and worked for the local Ag college doing assessments of students. Great job really, but oh my goodness, what a ballache in the summer when the grass was ready*, or there was straw to bale at home. The only benefit was most employers did not want me there at that time either.

Local council contract grass cutting was profitable, but too many at the game nowadays and cut-thoat rates.

*Herself really, REALLY hated tedding etc when I was off....

 

[steveR]

can’t tell you how much work I did as a lad for others and got very basic pay . Bit miffed really , live n learn I guess

As a Lad, maybe that was what you were worth

But in all honesty, I got a poor old starter wage too, but I was learning one hell of a lot every week. I still use and appreciate the tips and techniques I was taught back in 1975/76 on a placement as an "apprentice".

 

[DrWazzock]

Sounded like me when I took a sabbatical from farming and worked for the local Ag college doing assessments of students. Great job really, but oh my goodness, what a ballache in the summer when the grass was ready*, or there was straw to bale at home. The only benefit was most employers did not want me there at that time either.

Local council contract grass cutting was profitable, but too many at the game nowadays and cut-thoat rates.

*Herself really, REALLY hated tedding etc when I was off....

Some mornings I’d get up super early to try to get a few hours top dressing or spraying done before going in to work. Trouble was I’d have difficulty staying awake in the afternoon in the office after a big lunch in the company canteen complete with treacle sponge and lashings of custard, which apart from the money , is about the only thing I miss about that place!

 

[kfpben]

It’s really all down to the accommodation offered.
£20,000 a year with a free 5 bedroom house on the edge of Exmoor, bills and council tax paid is decent.

£20,000 a year and the accommodation is a rat infested caravan is a joke.

 

[ajcc]

It’s really all down to the accommodation offered.
£20,000 a year with a free 5 bedroom house on the edge of Exmoor, bills and council tax paid is decent.

£20,000 a year and the accommodation is a rat infested caravan is a joke.

Hampshire and Devon are different.....N.Devon farming and farming life are much more akin to Wales or Scotland likewise wages and job opportunities.
5 bedroom houses are let for £1500 a month even caravans are let for £500.
The advert was local but the op saw it and he’s from Sussex.....different world!!
Probably holiday home owner??

 

[Formatted]

Probably holiday home owner??

I'm under 30, new entrant, tenant

 

[ajcc]

Tongue in cheek, thought it might stir you up!

 

[JP1]

As a Lad, maybe that was what you were worth

But in all honesty, I got a poor old starter wage too, but I was learning one hell of a lot every week. I still use and appreciate the tips and techniques I was taught back in 1975/76 on a placement as an "apprentice".

My Pre College employer was Ok but dour

"One boy is one boy, two boys is half a boy, three boys is no F'kin use at all"

 

[Red Fred]

Are they still looking or did they get one?

No it was typical pink-trouser thinking. They evicted all the short term tenants when they heard that future payments would be connected to green schemes, but didn't realise that all the tractor work, topping etc, would require a new employee, as previously the tenants had kept things tidy for free.

 

[fredf]

Neighbour of mine is employing folks working on the M25. They get a van for travel and all they need to do is turn up with a lunchbox under their arm, He was paying them £25 per hour and yet they still wouldn’t work for it.

A man left my son to work on the new high-speed train route and he is getting more than £25/hr and accommodation
travels from Co Durham on Sunday afternoon and back on Friday night or Saturday night if he gets some overtime.

Tom.

 

[kiwi pom]

Tbh I'll try harder to find something after harvest. Might see if I can find some work on the back of a potato harvester. I'm really only after six hours a day in a factory regularly, or ad hoc seasonal stuff. It needs not be brain surgery. Just want to do a fairly basic job and get paid by someone else so I have actual money outside the business. I'm not looking for a career.

Are factory/warehousing jobs not 6am-2pm, 8 hour shifts any more?
Would fit in ok with having to get the kids after school.
I'm probably going to go down that road shortly but a lot of factories in this area are 12 hour shifts, 2 days, 2 nights, 4 off so not that handy.

 

[kiwi pom]

It’s really all down to the accommodation offered.
£20,000 a year with a free 5 bedroom house on the edge of Exmoor, bills and council tax paid is decent.

£20,000 a year and the accommodation is a rat infested caravan is a joke.

But the 20 k is basic, overtime would be extra at a higher rate, wouldn't it?
4 weeks holidays, sick pay, pension and a 39 hour week regardless of weather etc.

Not good but not terrible. What's a self employed driver at an Ag contractors charging these days?

 

[ARW]

Farming is getting left well behind, with inflating prices and the lack of a foreign work force we are likely to see wages increase a large amount just for the incentive to work
Apparently for every 1 job in London you get you have a choice of over 20 others, large employers are having to be prepared to pay more for the staff for low wage jobs, that pushes all the wages up

 

[Sid]

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Saw this job advert on Exmoor Farmers Network, want the applicant to drive a hundred thousand pound machine have extensive experience but only paying £20,000 and you can work Monday to Sunday too! No wonder agriculture has an issue attracting talent, this job would easily be £32-35,000 in an associated field like construction and you wouldn't have to work weekends.

It's very area dependent.
Seen jobs tractor driving range from £7/hr to £12.
The lower end ,the staff turnover is high but all new kit and a award winning "successful" contractor to the high end, low staff turnover, new kit head down and do the job type.

The lifestyle doesn't suit the modern way of life anymore, it's not all about money

That's the exact point, money doesn't buy you happiness......but it helps!

 

[Courier]

It's very area dependent.
Seen jobs tractor driving range from £7/hr to £12.
The lower end ,the staff turnover is high but all new kit and a award winning "successful" contractor to the high end, low staff turnover, new kit head down and do the job type.


That's the exact point, money doesn't buy you happiness......but it helps!

"Money doesn't buy you happiness" but a severe lack of it becomes very expensive.....

 

[Werzle]

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Saw this job advert on Exmoor Farmers Network, want the applicant to drive a hundred thousand pound machine have extensive experience but only paying £20,000 and you can work Monday to Sunday too! No wonder agriculture has an issue attracting talent, this job would easily be £32-35,000 in an associated field like construction and you wouldn't have to work weekends.

There would be lads working long hours for contractors earning twice that wage

 

[beardface]

Biggest issue for ag at the moment I'd say. And I don't see it getting any better. Robots are supposedly the answer, but they need an inbuilt self defence system round here....

 

[Werzle]

A man left my son to work on the new high-speed train route and he is getting more than £25/hr and accommodation
travels from Co Durham on Sunday afternoon and back on Friday night or Saturday night if he gets some overtime.

Tom.

Hs2 wanted tractor drivers last year £14/hr and i bet you would sat doing nothing most of the time.