Spring barley without dressing

[Huntstreet]

I tested all my wheat seed for bunt and it wasn't an issue so I didn't dress any of my first wheat seed this year. I did use lat on my second wheats. Wish I didn't bother. Some of it wasn't drilled until Feb

 

[Banana Bar]

Ours gives us free bags! Doesn't like using our old dusty ones.

They don’t!

 

[Chae1]

They don’t!

Was gutted! I'd spent the previous day going through them all tying bottoms etc.

 

[Sandy]

Yes. £70/t to dress and treat. £50 dress only.

See?

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It’s ridiculous that royalties are almost the same as seed dressing charge

 

[Pan mixer]

I have not dressed my barley seed with spd in case the monsoon contimues, I would have done some if I was going to keep some of the product for seed next year though.

 

[casemx 270]

Nothing to do with the cost we ve dressed a lot but need a lot more but we are not sure whether we would even get it in the ground so it might be going back on the heap .

 

[Pilatus]

I always used to think seed dressings slowed down the germination of the seed quite considerably especially the old Baytan. The seed germination can be slowed down due to many factors so doesn’t need slowing down even more by seed dressings , especially when planting conditions aren’t ideal as they certainly aren’t now.

 

[Flatlander]

I always used to think seed dressings slowed down the germination of the seed quite considerably especially the old Baytan. The seed germination can be slowed down due to many factors so doesn’t need slowing down even more by seed dressings , especially when planting conditions aren’t ideal as they certainly aren’t now.

Totally agree. I’ve treated spring down in the past and finished off with some untreated and it’s a couple of days sooner to emerge. Also seen it with roundup on before drilling. Usually the whole field would be done but to empty out the tank I sprayed it out on un planted ground. You could see to the inch where it went.

 

[HarryB97]

Never clean or dress anything, just tip it straight in. Do germinate and disease test it.

 

[ollie989898]

I always used to think seed dressings slowed down the germination of the seed quite considerably especially the old Baytan. The seed germination can be slowed down due to many factors so doesn’t need slowing down even more by seed dressings , especially when planting conditions aren’t ideal as they certainly aren’t now.

They do slow down the germination and very early growth rates of seeds- I've seen this in laboratory conditions myself. Put seeds in petri dishes and compare them. Undressed seed flies out of the ground. Unless it's diseased. Always get stuff tested for disease and make sure it is very very clean when combined for seed or else cleaned hard.

 

[yellow belly]

Imho dressed seed was more prone to slug damage

 

[Huntstreet]

Imho dressed seed was more prone to slug damage

Because it's slower to emerge?

 

[Flatlander]

They do slow down the germination and very early growth rates of seeds- I've seen this in laboratory conditions myself. Put seeds in petri dishes and compare them. Undressed seed flies out of the ground. Unless it's diseased. Always get stuff tested for disease and make sure it is very very clean when combined for seed or else cleaned hard.

Diseased seeds don’t always mean small shriveled seeds So cleaning hard won’t remove your problem. Clean disease free seed started long before it was combined. I’ve used home saved seed from my the same original variety for 8 years. Only seed from a field with two years break from cereals and kept extra disease free thru the growing season. cut early and cooled asap. I won’t even clean it until the bin is well above freezing to avoid cracking from mechanical damage. planting over an inch and a half deep doesn’t help with seed mortality or vigor. If I can get it into moisture plus a quarter inch I’m smiling.

 

[ollie989898]

Diseased seeds don’t always mean small shriveled seeds So cleaning hard won’t remove your problem. Clean disease free seed started long before it was combined. I’ve used home saved seed from my the same original variety for 8 years. Only seed from a field with two years break from cereals and kept extra disease free thru the growing season. cut early and cooled asap. I won’t even clean it until the bin is well above freezing to avoid cracking from mechanical damage. planting over an inch and a half deep doesn’t help with seed mortality or vigor. If I can get it into moisture plus a quarter inch I’m smiling.

Absolutely, my main concern from not having seed cleaned would be the weed seed that could be in it. Small grains aren't necessarily a huge issue- if you send it away for germination testing you will have some idea as to how viable it is.