I’d still use a Charollais in the lowland situation that the OP described.
disagree.
I’d still use a Charollais in the lowland situation that the OP described.
Whilst I’m on my high horse, there’s lot of Texel blood in Beltex, the ones that can walk anyway...
I’d have said it was all texel blood, just a different type as you say. I agree with types within a breed. But when people talk of Texel tups they usually mean the big rangy gormless headed things. Hence why I was a bit more specific in saying that I prefer the slightly more compact, better shaped, smaller headed versions. Around here there are very few breeding pure texels like that. They prefer the other ones! So I have too go for the beltex influence if I don’t want too travel miles and miles for tups.Whilst I’m on my high horse, there’s lot of Texel blood in Beltex, the ones that can walk anyway...
But when people talk of Texel tups they usually mean the big rangy gormless headed things.
true. From what I’ve seen of Slater’s stuff they look good types.
Definitely!!ooh!
(I’m not going to change - hand 50%, eye 35%, research 10%, figures 5%)
in my case , research 75% , figures 15% , hand/ eye 10%ooh!
(I’m not going to change - hand 50%, eye 35%, research 10%, figures 5%)
glad to hear it , need more people selling the same ,We’ve had Slater tups for 20 years now. Between 1 & 4 per year depending on requirements. We’ve never had one melt and die on us. He feeds beet pulp, not high protein concentrates. Unlike texels we buy in the sales of which 1 in 4 will shrivel away too nothing in the first year! My main issue with Slater tups is they are total tw*ts for fighting!! I’ve had more than one pasting from a slater tup. Bloody things.
I’ve tried pretty much every combination he does, all for various different ewes and jobs. Apart from the price (everyone else has clicked on he’s got the goods now, look at his production sale averages) I couldn’t be more satisfied.
in my case , research 75% , figures 15% , hand/ eye 10%
Sugar beet will make up half at least of any ration we feed except for creep.glad to hear it , need more people selling the same ,
prefer oats myself , better energy (oil) level , £130 against £200 for sbp , its very good stuff though perfect for leveling out lush grass growth in summerSugar beet will make up half at least of any ration we feed except for creep.
Good sheep hisWe’ve had Slater tups for 20 years now. Between 1 & 4 per year depending on requirements. We’ve never had one melt and die on us. He feeds beet pulp, not high protein concentrates. Unlike texels we buy in the sales of which 1 in 4 will shrivel away too nothing in the first year! My main issue with Slater tups is they are total tw*ts for fighting!! I’ve had more than one pasting from a slater tup. Bloody things.
I’ve tried pretty much every combination he does, all for various different ewes and jobs. Apart from the price (everyone else has clicked on he’s got the goods now, look at his production sale averages) I couldn’t be more satisfied.
Living up to the name stillTexel cross Swaledale is a common cross in the Yorkshire Dales.
The ''unfed'' wether lambs are far more saleable than unfed Mule wethers, and they are very uniform. The females are often kept for breeding, and run on ground that would normally carry older Swaledale ewes.
I don't think a Charollais x Swaledale ewe would keep condition to the same extent as a Texel cross. And of course, it's much easier to buy a decent Texel tup, and almost impossible to buy a decent Charollais tup.
I think i ended up with one of his beltex tips as a 2 shear a few years ago as part of a dispersal. Put some stamp on lambs and bred me a few tups.Good sheep his
Did same for first time this year, those not good enough for pure or crossing or had been lame.Char is an excellent cross for Swales, lambs will do R grade all day long.Look the part as stores too. Swale ewes pop lambs out like shelling peas and milk them well. We use char on all the Swales that don’t make the grade to cross to a BFL and to sweep up hill ewes on second cycle end of December/January