Teaser ram

[will6910]

Have seen a few different methods for teaser ram timing to ewes but can’t seem to find them currently so thought I’d ask. How long before entire rams go in would be best for teaser. I flush ewes two weeks before rams each year to. Plan is put teaser to ewes then take him out put other rams in and put teaser in with ewe lambs

 

[Mc115reed]

2 weeks I teaser for then rams in for 4weeks

 

[will6910]

Thank you. I had in my head two weeks to. Bolus and fluke them and put to flushing grass two weeks before proper rams in. I thought be good to put him in same time and keep it simple

 

[Kernowkid]

I put mine in 3 weeks before seems to keep the lambing tight but I don’t no what others do

 

[neilo]

Mine go in a month before, the aim being to get things going, but allow the ewes’ cycles to spread out again, rather than tighten things up too much. The second cycle is also supposed to be more fertile, so that cycle after the induced one ‘should’ be ideal.
Excepting ram fertility problems in single sire mobs, I rarely get less than 95% hold in the first 17 days, but generally spread out over those 17 days, despite ram:ewe ratios up to 1:120.

 

[will6910]

Thank you. I just have the one teaser this year so have to time it correct to do ewes and ewe lambs and not have them lambing to late

 

[neilo]

Thank you. I just have the one teaser this year so have to time it correct to do ewes and ewe lambs and not have them lambing to late

How many ewes & ewe lambs do you have this year, and can you put them together for a bit? Recc ratio for teasers is 1:100, but they seem to work ok at higher ratios than that. They don’t need to physically serve the ewes, just be around them, smelling.

 

[will6910]

How many ewes & ewe lambs do you have this year, and can you put them together for a bit? Recc ratio for teasers is 1:100, but they seem to work ok at higher ratios than that. They don’t need to physically serve the ewes, just be around them, smelling.

Iv 70 ewes and 50 ewe lambs. Had disaster last year at tupping so been told be safer to keep them separate if I can just incase. And try limit cross over off rams to. One year years back I put ewe lambs to ram start of November but they didn’t tup to well into second cycle whicj left them lambing very late compared to ewes and was hard to manage. So now I like just 2 weeks or so off a gap between. I wouldn’t mind lambing all at once as have the room usually and isn’t a big flock to start with

 

[neilo]

Iv 70 ewes and 50 ewe lambs. Had disaster last year at tupping so been told be safer to keep them separate if I can just incase. And try limit cross over off rams to. One year years back I put ewe lambs to ram start of November but they didn’t tup to well into second cycle whicj left them lambing very late compared to ewes and was hard to manage. So now I like just 2 weeks or so off a gap between. I wouldn’t mind lambing all at once as have the room usually and isn’t a big flock to start with

What’s the reason for that advice? Presumably an abortion agent of some sort?
Can you put them in adjacent fields, that ‘should’ achieve the teaser effect just the same, but without running them together.

I always tease the ewe lambs but they still spread out fairly evenly over 2 cycles (before the rams come out). Better grown lambs might well take quicker, but they will never synch as well as ewes ime.
If you don’t want a more extended lambing then you need to compromise on numbers of ewe lambs getting in lamb, or grow them better pre-tupping, IME.

 

[will6910]

What’s the reason for that advice? Presumably an abortion agent of some sort?
Can you put them in adjacent fields, that ‘should’ achieve the teaser effect just the same, but without running them together.

I always tease the ewe lambs but they still spread out fairly evenly over 2 cycles (before the rams come out). Better grown lambs might well take quicker, but they will never synch as well as ewes ime.
If you don’t want a more extended lambing then you need to compromise on numbers of ewe lambs getting in lamb, or grow them better pre-tupping, IME.

It was a enzotic issue last year. Ewes mostly tupped but then repeated then next time. Wasn’t a ram issue as was happening over all the rams. Had 20 repeat in first few days off second cycle over 3 batches. I was told that it just one those things and it’s ram issues and put them all together with the ram with least repeats so I did but didn’t help and blood tests eventually showed it was enzotic. The ewe lambs weren’t affected on blood tests as kept separate but because I mixed all together in one batch then they’d have picked it up I was told after that. I have more rams than need this year but my ewe lambs are related to the 3 original rams so have had to buy new blood in

 

[neilo]

It was a enzotic issue last year. Ewes mostly tupped but then repeated then next time. Wasn’t a ram issue as was happening over all the rams. Had 20 repeat in first few days off second cycle over 3 batches. I was told that it just one those things and it’s ram issues and put them all together with the ram with least repeats so I did but didn’t help and blood tests eventually showed it was enzotic. The ewe lambs weren’t affected on blood tests as kept separate but because I mixed all together in one batch then they’d have picked it up I was told after that. I have more rams than need this year but my ewe lambs are related to the 3 original rams so have had to buy new blood in

Presumably they are vaccinated now? Some will likely have picked it up already, and go on to abort anyway, but vaccination should mean the problem will be gone after this year.

 

[will6910]

Presumably they are vaccinated now? Some will likely have picked it up already, and go on to abort anyway, but vaccination should mean the problem will be gone after this year.

Yeah all vaccinated last week. For enzo and already have been doing the toxo