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bobk

Member
Location
stafford
But, but, but, Britain holds all the cards. No need at all to worry or be angry, when your‘e in such a position.
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Martin Holden

Member
Trade
Location
Cheltenham
Nowt do with brexit mate , worldwide problem , biggest load of bolox is on time delivery , always going to fail at some point
Indeed JIT worked well before the pandemic. Then apart from food all industries came to a grinding halt so all “their” suppliers were caught too. The length of drop in demand slowed the worlds wheel down, then “bam” demand switches back on and JIT can’t respond the same way. It will take at least a year for this to “flatten” out I think so we have to live with it and sort out our priorities.
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
Indeed JIT worked well before the pandemic. Then apart from food all industries came to a grinding halt so all “their” suppliers were caught too. The length of drop in demand slowed the worlds wheel down, then “bam” demand switches back on and JIT can’t respond the same way. It will take at least a year for this to “flatten” out I think so we have to live with it and sort out our priorities.

so, the “pandemic” was only in the U.K. then Martin? (Not really a pandemic in that case then), as other than stuff from the U.K., all is normal over here👍
 

BrianV

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor
Don’t really think it’s either Brexit or COVID that’s the real problem it’s the cack handed leadership from the very top that’s the problem, far too much dithering, failing to make firm decisions, for instance such as the so many COVID “rules” that forever turned out to be simply advisory so people never knew whether to abide with them or not. Johnson is turning out to be a disaster with no real authority & he seems to be being led astray from all that he claimed to believe in the past.
 

firther

Member
Location
holmfirth
its because they've come off furlough and had to go back to work

theres 1000s of jobs around at moment but a lack of willing workers, all young ens just want to go to uni, even though half of them aren't really brainy enough.
we can't keep up with work coming in and i'm hearing that in most sectors, so its certainly not all doom and gloom by any means
 

Mek

Member
What does that mean?
For example, to be a success, would you consider that the uk needs to be further up the economy standings than it was before 2016?
A good question but it’s the same as asking Brexiters why they voted for Brexit, they don’t know,and if they do know they haven’t got the rubbish to say.
 

robs1

Member
A good question but it’s the same as asking Brexiters why they voted for Brexit, they don’t know,and if they do know they haven’t got the rubbish to say.
What rubbish all those I know who voted for brexit know why they did,of course it's easy to claim we dont as it make remain voters feel as though they are clever and superior.
Perhaps if remain had put up a better argument for staying the result would have been different.
 

Martin Holden

Member
Trade
Location
Cheltenham
so, the “pandemic” was only in the U.K. then Martin? (Not really a pandemic in that case then), as other than stuff from the U.K., all is normal over here👍
I meant global pandemic. sure there are shortages in France as there is worldwide, France isn't immune from the global economy and supply chains.
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
What rubbish all those I know who voted for brexit know why they did,of course it's easy to claim we dont as it make remain voters feel as though they are clever and superior.
Perhaps if remain had put up a better argument for staying the result would have been different.
perhaps if remainer governments hadn't ploughed on their own way without a thought for those that didn't want it then there would have been no vote as there wouldn't have been a need for one.
Remainers created brexit, all UK governments up till the vote were remainer governments and what a p1ss poor job they made of the UK's involvement with the EU that it was so bad that the vote was to leave, they should be ashamed of themselves and all hang their heads very low on this matter
 

robs1

Member
perhaps if remainer governments hadn't ploughed on their own way without a thought for those that didn't want it then there would have been no vote as there wouldn't have been a need for one.
Remainers created brexit, all UK governments up till the vote were remainer governments and what a p1ss poor job they made of the UK's involvement with the EU that it was so bad that the vote was to leave, they should be ashamed of themselves and all hang their heads very low on this matter

We were in the EU for 45 years. The majority of folks were unsatisfied with it and voted to leave.
It's not a difficult concept to grasp.
It's just a symptom of modern life, if something happens you don't like keep blaming someone else and whingeing till you get your own way, sooner or later there is going to be a day of reckoning and it's going to get ugly.
Time to stock up on cartridges
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
It's just a symptom of modern life, if something happens you don't like keep blaming someone else and whingeing till you get your own way
Thats what those that were anti EU did till they got their way and its what those that are pro EU are doing now
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Feels very angry at the moment I don't think I know a time when been such anger and frustration,
Why are people getting so angry ?
The UK is just trying to keep up with France in being angry, its failing miserably but they are past masters after all and there is nothing wrong with setting your sights high. :whistle: :)
 

BrianV

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor
We were in the EU for 45 years. The majority of folks were unsatisfied with it and voted to leave.
It's not a difficult concept to grasp.
I think truth be told the majority of people were simply fed up with an ever increasing amount of people moving to the UK from mainly the EU, talk of an ever expanding EU convinced people that many from these poorer countries would again see the UK as the answer to all their dreams & flood over here.
Blair & Brown must shoulder a great deal of the blame for Brexit by their manipulating of immigration when the first lot of Eastern European countries joined & out of step with the other EU countries flung open the doors immediately for political gain or so they thought!
Merkle must also take the blame for doing much the same more recently, the shame is it is our own pathetic governments mostly of Tory persuasion that have continued this rush to stuff our country with as many people as they can for some inexplicable reason!!
 

Mek

Member
I’m pretty sure there were more immigrants from non European countries. I’m also pretty sure that immigration figures are actually higher now than they were in 2016.
 

stevieg

Member
I meant global pandemic. sure there are shortages in France as there is worldwide, France isn't immune from the global economy and supply chains.
Yeah. The only empty shelves in the European supermarkets are where the Cornish pasties and Yorkshire puddings used to be.
brexit red tape made it impossible to export fresh. M&S didn’t last long in Europe after brexit
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
I meant global pandemic. sure there are shortages in France as there is worldwide, France isn't immune from the global economy and supply chains.
The only shortage I've noticed is ruddy John Deere fitters, been waiting weeks to get a tractor fixed. Other than that is more about price rises on things like construction materials than actual shortage of anything atm. But I am sure some manufacturing businesses must now be starting to run short of some Chinese produced stuff.
 

Ashtree

Member
Northern Ireland shelves and fuel pumps are unaffected. It’s supply line from UK, has simply been replaced by supplies from ROI. Northern Ireland’s place in the EU single market, compliments of the protocol, has protected it from Brexit.
Proof that the mainland has a significant direct Brexit disruption on top of that of Covid.
 

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