- Location
- Galway Ireland
Is there any cheap way of treating lambs for coccidiosis 2.5l of vecoxan is €260 and I’m wondering if anyone has an alternative?
Treating lambs with coccidiosis
- Thread starter Cmoran
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- Limousin, France
- Location
- Galway Ireland
I’m actually not sure. you could be right about that I didn’t ask but will when in merchant again
bobajob
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- Location
- Sw Scotland
Yes I think vecoxan treats it. There is a downland drench for cocci now, I think it’s cheaper but I dont know how much/ I have never used it.
@Nithsdale Farmer has used it I think.
www.downland.co.uk
@Nithsdale Farmer has used it I think.
Coxicert Oral Suspension -
Coxicert Oral Suspension. Prevention of clinical signs of coccidiosis in Lambs and Calves.
www.downland.co.uk
- Location
- breconshire
Our vets tell us to use it to treat cocci in lambs, bought a litre of generic this year, it was cheaper than vecoxan but only £5- 10 I think.
Had it diagnosed along with nematodirus in August several years ago, vet told me not to bother dosing them for cocci as they would be immune by then - did the shitey ars*d ones anyway
Had it diagnosed along with nematodirus in August several years ago, vet told me not to bother dosing them for cocci as they would be immune by then - did the shitey ars*d ones anyway
- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
You can't really prevent it - cocci is EVERYWHERE. It just depends whether you have 1 of the 2 strains on farm which cause trouble to lambs or calves.
The lambs or calves must be exposed to it, and the gut must take a challenge, for the animal to develop immunity (which is why adult livestock are not affected)
You use Vecoxan as soon as you see clinical signs. So yes, it treats Cocci.
Baycox works slightly different as stays in the system for 6 weeks giving persistence.
Chanelle make their own version of Vecoxan (it's the same drug/product and dose rates are the same) and Downland, under licence, rebrand Chanelle as their own, too. This has put competition on the market meaning Elanco no longer have a monopoly. Chanelle and Downland are cheaper but don't expect it to be considerably less.
Baycox is very expensive. The Vecoxan dose is the cheapest - and depending on the challenge 1 dose should be enough if all lambs in a group are closely aged.
But, if you have a known issue and are handling your lambs at 4-5wks old anyway - a dose of Baycox then will be a better treatment strategy as it will cover the critical time where most challenge comes as lambs start grazing at 6-8 weeks of age.
Lambs can have a high burden/challenge and you can see no ill effect - until the animals are stressed (moved, worked with, weather...) and you'll also see less problems if lambs are kept on longer grass (both these points apply for Nemo, too)
Chasingmytail
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- Location
- Newport, SE Wales
Have you had conformation from vet?
What's your concern! Don't have to lose many lambs or have a bunch of unthrifty ones to keep longer or buy feed to cover the cost. Our vets will sell us as little or as much as we need if your concerned about buying to much and it wasting.
We had a really bad outbreak of cocci in September one year in weaned lambs that got moved from clean grazing onto pasture that had store Hoggs on the spring before, it was really bad and we lost a load of lambs because I thought it was worms on the Friday and by the time I worked out by the Tuesday it was cocci they were buggered. Didn’t help that it was hot and they where drinking out of a watering hole that was slow moving, the sick lambs where shiting in the water and the healthy ones where drinking it!
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- Aberdeenshire
Baycox has the advantage of being a single dose so one lot of handling/dosing which should have a bearing on cost of treatment comparisons.
In reference to the lambs above drinking from a slow moving watering hole, when I had my nemo-cocci perfect storm the lambs drank an incredible amount of water as an effect of the disease not a cause. They could not become sufficiently hydrated because of the damage to their system. I literally could not force them away from the watering trough.
In reference to the lambs above drinking from a slow moving watering hole, when I had my nemo-cocci perfect storm the lambs drank an incredible amount of water as an effect of the disease not a cause. They could not become sufficiently hydrated because of the damage to their system. I literally could not force them away from the watering trough.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
As I may have posted once or twice before 
, I’ve been using Brinicombe buckets (containing Deccox) for decades now, putting them out for a bit when we see the a few dirty bums. Lambs don’t take them in any quantity before they get a dose of cocci, the associated mild dehydration driving them to the salt contained apparently, then they take a big dose of Deccox which clears the cocci quickly, before they shed millions of cocci to continue the cycle. The fact that they are challenged briefly means that they develop a long term natural immunity.
We used to see terrible cocci, but get less and less every year, despite having sheep on the same fields every year and no cattle, and also seem to use fewer buckets each year.
Last year I sold a 7 month old ram lamb to a large pedigree flock that uses Vecoxan routinely, and he started squitting through the eye of a needle within a few weeks. They gave him a dose of Vecoxan and he dried up almost overnight. That lamb had clearly never even had enough of a challenge here to develop immunity, which I can only explain by the pastures getting cleaner over time.
, I’ve been using Brinicombe buckets (containing Deccox) for decades now, putting them out for a bit when we see the a few dirty bums. Lambs don’t take them in any quantity before they get a dose of cocci, the associated mild dehydration driving them to the salt contained apparently, then they take a big dose of Deccox which clears the cocci quickly, before they shed millions of cocci to continue the cycle. The fact that they are challenged briefly means that they develop a long term natural immunity.We used to see terrible cocci, but get less and less every year, despite having sheep on the same fields every year and no cattle, and also seem to use fewer buckets each year.
Last year I sold a 7 month old ram lamb to a large pedigree flock that uses Vecoxan routinely, and he started squitting through the eye of a needle within a few weeks. They gave him a dose of Vecoxan and he dried up almost overnight. That lamb had clearly never even had enough of a challenge here to develop immunity, which I can only explain by the pastures getting cleaner over time.
As I may have posted once or twice before
We used to see terrible cocci, but get less and less every year, despite having sheep on the same fields every year and no cattle, and also seem to use fewer buckets each year.
Last year I sold a 7 month old ram lamb to a large pedigree flock that uses Vecoxan routinely, and he started squitting through the eye of a needle within a few weeks. They gave him a dose of Vecoxan and he dried up almost overnight. That lamb had clearly never even had enough of a challenge here to develop immunity, which I can only explain by the pastures getting cleaner over time.
The new buckets are hopeless though. Ewes plough through them like sweeties.
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- Montgomeryshire
They are certainly more palatable than the originals, but not as bad as when the silly buggers made them with maize for a year.
Still working out cheaper than Vecoxan here, without the hateful job of drenching wriggly little lambs.As above, we find we are using fewer every year, but then we only put them out when we get a few mucky bums, and certainly not in front of them all summer.
They are certainly more palatable than the originals, but not as bad as when the silly buggers made them with maize for a year.
As above, we find we are using fewer every year, but then we only put them out when we get a few mucky bums, and certainly not in front of them all summer.
I’ve resorted to putting them behind upside down ring feeders. Still find the ewes love them.
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