Undersown spring barley

[Hfd Cattle]

Morning all ,
Is this possible ....
Putting a patch into SFI herbal ley which will need to be established in the Autmn at latest . I was wondering about putting spring barley in and undersowing it with the herbal ley .
Will it work ?

Thought please ?

 

[Welderloon]

If timed correctly & sown in the spring then yes & your cattle will love the resulting SB straw..............Combine won't though, make sure your combine operator has cut similar undersown crops before & you'll also benefit from a good drying day when cutting.
Timings need to be right as does barley variety which needs a bit of care - if wet & it goes flat you'll be as well putting a mower through it as a wide combine header won't like it at all.

 

[coniser]

I did some last year with oats silaged them when oat ears formed just before ears filled worked well

 

[serf]

I did some last year with oats silaged them when oat ears formed just before ears filled worked well

Yep , whole crop bale it .

 

[coniser]

Yep , whole crop bale it .

yes baled it feeding it now to year old stores with a bit of cake to just keep them ticking over to turn out

 

[WRXppp]

Had undersown spring cereal as an option when in ELS/HLS and it was the harvesting of it that was the biggest headache of the whole scheme fortunately I have a neighbour with a stripper header which made the job so much easier.

 

[Chae1]

Cut barley seed rate back so it gives other crop chance to grow.

Don't put too much N on either, it it goes flat it kills grass.


Limited with weed control options if any broadleaf plants in undersown mixture.
Just nip heads off with combine to get barley, leave it a week or 2 then in with mower to get rest.

We do 30-40 acres a year undersown to establish new leys.

 

[d williams]

Morning all ,
Is this possible ....
Putting a patch into SFI herbal ley which will need to be established in the Autmn at latest . I was wondering about putting spring barley in and undersowing it with the herbal ley .
Will it work ?

Thought please ?

Yes but don’t use to high a seed rate 30/40kgs ac plenty and feed barley be good enough

 

[David1968]

Morning all ,
Is this possible ....
Putting a patch into SFI herbal ley which will need to be established in the Autmn at latest . I was wondering about putting spring barley in and undersowing it with the herbal ley .
Will it work ?

Thought please ?

Do it all the time with normal leys. Don't feed the barley too heavy and its usually fine.

If you have to cut it high with the combine put the mower through after and wrap it otherwise the rolled down straw will rot some of the ley out.

 

[Hfd Cattle]

yes baled it feeding it now to year old stores with a bit of cake to just keep them ticking over to turn out

How did you cope with rats?
Did whole crop once yrs ago and had every rat from miles away visiting

 

[Pistonbroke]

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Not saying you have to have peas,or use their mixes but this is what we do,cut it green as silage and forget grain. Sugar is a lot higher

 

[coniser]

How did you cope with rats?
Did whole crop once yrs ago and had every rat from miles away visiting

Not had a problem with rats put the bales on their own heap well a way from the farm yard

 

[Pistonbroke]

Not had a problem with rats put the bales on their own heap well a way from the farm yard

Did that once when the grain was nearly ripe and lost 80 bales out of 270. They found it

 

[coniser]

Did that once when the grain was nearly ripe and lost 80 bales out of 270. They found it

cut mine before ears started to fill

 

[Pistonbroke]

cut mine before ears started to fill

That's what we do now and they seem safe enough. The disaster year,it started raining in the day before we were going to mow and didn't dry up for seven weeks . 16 acres,360 bales of not nice stuff

 

[capfits]

Do it every year.
Cut high, on a windy drying day.
Bale,wrap, and feed cattle love it in early part of autumn. Never mown it usually put lambs on to take down grass and tramp down stubble which soon disappears.
Some years green as leeks others not so.