Today with all the Genomic information you would think there would be a far better choice of bulls in AI company brochures , bulls to correct the problems these companies have created over the years like short teats, straight legs and fertility. But when you study the choices 75% have straight legs or short teats and fertility is a his or miss ! I am looking for a bull with minus stature, longer teat lenght a set in the leg positive for fat and protein % and good fertility and BLACK , I can find some of these traits but can't find a bull with them all. Anyone able to point me one out ?
What has gone wrong with AI companies bull selection ?
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Jdunn55
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Use holstein uk's bull selector can type in exactly what you want
Some tips as i've been doing a lot of this recently...
1. Use holstein uk bull picker.
2. Use all the big semen companies websites to filter what you want.
3. Talk to your semen reps about what you want.
4. Dont go too crazy with your filters. Sometimes you can filter out good bulls my just being that too harsh on certain criteria.
Sometimes the bull picker doesnt always have bulls on from semen companies websites. The catalogues you get in the post are generally garbage or just what semen they are trying to pedal atm.
1. Use holstein uk bull picker.
2. Use all the big semen companies websites to filter what you want.
3. Talk to your semen reps about what you want.
4. Dont go too crazy with your filters. Sometimes you can filter out good bulls my just being that too harsh on certain criteria.
Sometimes the bull picker doesnt always have bulls on from semen companies websites. The catalogues you get in the post are generally garbage or just what semen they are trying to pedal atm.
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Jdunn55
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Re teat length are you sure it's not teat placement that's the issue. I'd take a shorter teat over a longer one every time personally.
spoken like someone without a robot D:
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So a location issue?
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Any chance of you explaining what the issue is then might be helpful.
Jdunn55
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Robots want longer teats than what you might desire in a parlour to help with cluster attachment speed
You also want the teats slightly wider and milking speed is important as that's what will eventually limit you on a bot
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As I said locating the teat
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Sounds like you need a cross of Fleckvieh.
If your teats are too small the laser can't see the teat. And if it does the cup won't stick. Longer teats are way better as even if they are right next to each other or if cow has reverse tilt the laser can still find each teat.
Breeding small teats into a herd is worse than breeding a too tight ligament.
Holsteinfriesian90
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Everything nowadays has gone narrower and frail. Not sure what the idea is behind it.
no sure about your 'too tight ligament ' comment, I remember reading an article about type and lifetime production. There was no correlation between all type traits(udder attachment, capacity, feet and legs etc) and life time yield except for strength of ligament.
My concern is getting taller and taller.
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I have booked an assessment for next month, hoping to start using it for breeding next May.