What would the Simmental of the sheep world be ?

[Hesstondriver]

This came up in conversation last night , and we were comparing sheep and cattle breeds like native lowland cattle and sheep and also the extreme muscle continental types of both . But what would the Simmental equivalent be ?

 

[neilo]

I don't think there's enough popcorn in the world for this one... 'best' beef AND sheep breeds, all in one thread.

 

[poorsheepfarmer]

Texel x mule

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Mule

 

[Durry cows]

Suffolk
Used to be popular (contentious I know), heavy, cross on to a commercial cow/sheep as terminal or kept pure, weigh like lead, fairly docile, occasional big lamb/offspring that doesn’t do the mother any good, can be finished off grass or equally some corn in the diet....

 

[Poorbuthappy]

Mule

Nah thats the holstein of the sheep world


Someone's got to say it..... Lleyn.
Or Exlana if you don't want wool.

 

[Poorbuthappy]

Nah thats the holstein of the sheep world


Someone's got to say it..... Lleyn.
Or Exlana if you don't want wool.

Though to be fair there's so many different types of lleyn, it could probably be compared to any cattle breed.

 

[yellowbelly]

Mule

Nah, 'cos it's not a proper breed like a Sim. - cross a mule with a mule and you don't get another mule.

Of the breeds mentioned so far, I'd say the Suffolk is nearest

 

[Poorbuthappy]

Nah, 'cos it's not a proper breed like a Sim. - cross a mule with a mule and you don't get another mule.

Of the breeds mentioned so far, I'd say the Suffolk is nearest

Don't you like the Simmi?

 

[Hesstondriver]

Probably should have phrased it like which pure / pedigree continental breed is the equivalent of the Simmental !
I said valais black nose as they come from Switzerland

 

[yellowbelly]

Probably should have phrased it like which pure / pedigree continental breed is the equivalent of the Simmental !
I said valais black nose as they come from Switzerland

They probably cost as much per head

 

[Al R]

The sim isn’t that good of a cow in terms of kg/ha finished. I know of someone who had a cow at 1300kg It’d take a lot of Grass to cover its own weight let alone rearing too.
for this conversation I’d say the Dorset or pure texel as both big breeds that eat a lot and weigh more than they wean on average.

the Red Devon or big herefords/ big Angus would be good alrounder cows that wean a good kg/ha.

 

[Bury the Trash]

This came up in conversation last night , and we were comparing sheep and cattle breeds like native lowland cattle and sheep and also the extreme muscle continental types of both . But what would the Simmental equivalent be ?

i was thinking about this the other day, when i used to keep a few pure Rouge de L'Ouest 30 odd yrs ago, the pure lambs were full of muscle which was as lean as as lean could be ..the one or 2 bigger / older ones that we kept for the freezer from the killers were tasteless, without exaggeration.

 

[Hesstondriver]

They probably cost as much per head

Cattle trade’s not that good

 

[JP1]

Roussin

Maternal terminal breed with well developed gigot and sensible sized, suitable for breeding pure, crossed with hill breeds (eg Beulah) or top crossed with terminal sires and capable of sustainably rearing twins and self replacing

@Sandpit Farm fill in the qualities I missed please

 

[Agrivator]

The North Country Cheviot. Both can form a commercial pure herd/flock, and both can be used as a terminal sires if need be.

That's the definitive answer, so this thread should be locked.

 

[JP1]

The North Country Cheviot. Both can form a commercial pure herd/flock, and both can be used as a terminal sires if need be.

That's the definitive answer, so this thread should be locked.

Not foreign enough. Racking my brains as to what the NCC is most akin to with a native ; maybe Luing?

 

[Agrivator]

Not foreign enough. Racking my brains as to what the NCC is most akin to with a native ; maybe Luing?

The North Country Cheviot is Scottish. You can't get more foreign than that. Ask Nicola.

 

[Bury the Trash]

But better example would be Ber du Cher


Makes some useful females ive seen out of mules but a bit soft footed generally is all...

 

[spin cycle]

so a beef breed with maternal possibilities ........sheep equiv has to be texel surely