Wheat hardness test.

[Chae1]

Right we've had a load wheat rejected because apparently it's hard wheat.

We only grew 34 acres, was all skyscraper seed bought from merchant. All stored in same bulk.

Had 3 loads away, 4 th load rejected. Going into Cameronbridge for Diageo.

Apparently they do a Single Kernel Characterisation test for hardness. Ours is 70, which is top of scale. Cut off 40 something.

Does anyone know anyone independent in the UK who can do a SKCS test? Have kept a sample ourselves and want it tested.

 

[Adeptandy]

I had this one year from Frontier with a load of milling wheat.
Once I told them the seed, chem and fert came from them and if it was soft ( opposite issue ) then it must be what they supplied me the problem seem to disappear

 

[jre]

Right we've had a load wheat rejected because apparently it's hard wheat.

We only grew 34 acres, was all skyscraper seed bought from merchant. All stored in same bulk.

Had 3 loads away, 4 th load rejected. Going into Cameronbridge for Diageo.

Apparently they do a Single Kernel Characterisation test for hardness. Ours is 70, which is top of scale. Cut off 40something.

Does anyone know anyone independent in the UK who can do a SKCS test? Have kept a sample ourselves and want it tested.

There's a seed testing firm in Forfar, can't think of their name now. They might be able to do it. Always been very efficient.

 

[jre]

Found it. Grain and Seed Analysis, Forfar. 01307 468031

 

[Iben]

I believe Cameron Bridge has become quite strict on this in the last year after realising how much hard feed wheat has been going in there (allegedly!). Think they bought a new testing machine last year.

Ask to see the calibration records of the machine. They will be assured as well, so should have it.

 

[Chae1]

Found it. Grain and Seed Analysis, Forfar. 01307 468031

Thanks.

Have tried them, they don't have equipment to test it unfortunately.

 

[BigBarl]

SASA or NIAB should have the kit to do.

 

[Bman]

We have not grown soft wheat on our farm for well over 10 years this year we had a load rejected by adm for being soft wheat supposedly

 

[farmerm]

Right we've had a load wheat rejected because apparently it's hard wheat.

We only grew 34 acres, was all skyscraper seed bought from merchant. All stored in same bulk.

Had 3 loads away, 4 th load rejected. Going into Cameronbridge for Diageo.

Apparently they do a Single Kernel Characterisation test for hardness. Ours is 70, which is top of scale. Cut off 40 something.

Does anyone know anyone independent in the UK who can do a SKCS test? Have kept a sample ourselves and want it tested.

Any value in a genetics test prove it to be skyscraper?

 

[HAM135]

Right we've had a load wheat rejected because apparently it's hard wheat.

We only grew 34 acres, was all skyscraper seed bought from merchant. All stored in same bulk.

Had 3 loads away, 4 th load rejected. Going into Cameronbridge for Diageo.

Apparently they do a Single Kernel Characterisation test for hardness. Ours is 70, which is top of scale. Cut off 40 something.

Does anyone know anyone independent in the UK who can do a SKCS test? Have kept a sample ourselves and want it tested.

What's the problem,it will be sold as feed wheat,whole thing is a pee take,sell as feed but gets used for distilling with no premium.

 

[Chae1]

What's the problem,it will be sold as feed wheat,whole thing is a pee take,sell as feed but gets used for distilling with no premium.

It was meant to be £200/t.

Will now have a haulage charge to redirect it and downgraded value £40/t less.

£1200 is the problem.

Lorry was loaded Thursday and not tipped till Monday morning. Lorry driver that collected won't answer his phone.

 

[Against_the_grain]

It was meant to be £200/t.

Will now have a haulage charge to redirect it and downgraded value £40/t less.

£1200 is the problem.

Lorry was loaded Thursday and not tipped till Monday morning. Lorry driver that collected won't answer his phone.

Hmmm the haulage company smells fishy to me...

 

[Against_the_grain]

Either way if you brought your seed in and only grew 34acres and thats all you had this is someone elses f'up. Either the merchant who sold you the seed, the haulier, or the end user.

 

[HAM135]

It was meant to be £200/t.

Will now have a haulage charge to redirect it and downgraded value £40/t less.

£1200 is the problem.

Lorry was loaded Thursday and not tipped till Monday morning. Lorry driver that collected won't answer his phone.

Did you not sell it as feed wheat,if you did it's not your problem.

 

[Chae1]

Either way if you brought your seed in and only grew 34acres and thats all you had this is someone elses f'up. Either the merchant who sold you the seed, the haulier, or the end user.

Yeah somethings not right and I'm going to try and get to bottom of it.

For a start they said it had been rejected at Girvan which is other side of country. So redirection charge much more. Then they phoned at end of that day and said Cameronbridge.

Were going to get me results of hardness test for first 3 loads that went in, but no communication from them again today.

 

[Chae1]

Did you not sell it as feed wheat,if you did it's not your problem.

No it was going to Diageo cameronbridge for spirit.

https://www.diageo.com/en/news-and-...world-first-recognition-for-water-stewardship

 

[HAM135]

No it was going to Diageo cameronbridge for spirit.

https://www.diageo.com/en/news-and-...world-first-recognition-for-water-stewardship

So you were actually getting a premium for it going to Cameron bridge,the majority of mine goes in there all sold as feed wheat though,never heard of any premium before,I will have to have a word with my merchant in the morning.

 

[Chae1]

So you were actually getting a premium for it going to Cameron bridge,the majority of mine goes in there all sold as feed wheat though,never heard of any premium before,I will have to have a word with my merchant in the morning.

Its to cover wheat futures based malting barley I couldn't supply at harvest due to germination issues, that was fixed at a good price.

 

[HAM135]

Its to cover wheat futures based malting barley I couldn't supply at harvest due to germination issues, that was fixed at a good price.

Ah I see,that changes things, can't be going in on feed spec or should have sailed in.

 

[Flat 10]

Right we've had a load wheat rejected because apparently it's hard wheat.

We only grew 34 acres, was all skyscraper seed bought from merchant. All stored in same bulk.

Had 3 loads away, 4 th load rejected. Going into Cameronbridge for Diageo.

Apparently they do a Single Kernel Characterisation test for hardness. Ours is 70, which is top of scale. Cut off 40 something.

Does anyone know anyone independent in the UK who can do a SKCS test? Have kept a sample ourselves and want it tested.

I started a thread on this last year. Apparently skyscraper is known to be problematic for testing hard despite being it being a soft wheat. Don’t know what you can do. I had to suck it up. Rather puts me off skyscraper which is a shame because I think it’s a fantastic wheat.