Winter Beans Pre-Em

Zippy768

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Dorset/Wilts
So Blackgrass, Cleavers and Charlock are the main issues.

For Blackgrass, Kerb is the only effective option. And needs to be pre-em? (Blackgrass isnt awful)

How well would a Nirvana work on Cleavers?

Could I get away with dropping the rate of Nirvana and boosting with some straight Pend and still keep on top of the Charlock?
Will anything take out Charlock later on?

Presumably I could do Kerb and clomazone which would leave me with the charlock issue.

In osr in the past on these fields I didnt bother trying to sort the charlock. Would leaving charlock in beans be a massive problem?
 

Brisel

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NFFN Member
Location
North Yorkshire
Blackgrass- either Kerb pre em or Crawler post em. Kerb has some broad leafed activity on weeds like chickweed that Crawler doesn’t.
Cleavers - clomazone pre em only
Charlock - harder to call this one but ignore it at your peril. Nirvana is expensive but would do a better job than straight PDM. Post em you have bentazone but that is not cheap and unreliable.
 

Zippy768

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Dorset/Wilts
Fudge. Charlock more serious than i thought then.
A kerb, Nirvana and clomazone mix is big money.

What's the advantage of kerb/clomazone mix over pdm/clomazone - apart from the blackgrass aspect
 

Brisel

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NFFN Member
Location
North Yorkshire
If only Blackgrass and cleavers were your main problems, amg and speedwell about as well.
Would u go just kerb and clomazone. I.e drop the pdm altogether?

Yes, I would. Don't forget the charlock though! Bentazone is not reliable and needs to be on when the weeds are small in warm weather, which will have you clenching your butt cheeks in a cold March...
 

Zippy768

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Dorset/Wilts
Yes, I would. Don't forget the charlock though! Bentazone is not reliable and needs to be on when the weeds are small in warm weather, which will have you clenching your butt cheeks in a cold March...
Haha only half of the bean ground suffers from charlock and only half suffers from bg. Unfortunately a quarter suffers from charlock and bg 🙁. Gonna be a hefty mix
 

Flat 10

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Location
Fen Edge
I wouldn’t omit the pdm myself unless I was using defy. You need kerb, and clomazone and it’s just a choice what the other partner is. Basagran can be quite good on the right day, don’t let the weeds get too big.....
 

Zippy768

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Dorset/Wilts
Is Defy ok on beans.
Presumably the later I drill, lessens the weed pressure?
Sprayed off and ready, but seed not arriving till Monday......just as the weather changes 🙁
 

Update on the Sustainable Farming Incentive pilot

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Update on the Sustainable Farming Incentive pilot

Written by Lisa Applin

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In July, we opened the applications window for farmers to join our Sustainable Farming Incentive pilot.

The Sustainable Farming Incentive is 1 of the 3 new environmental land management schemes. It sits alongside the future Local Nature Recovery and Landscape Recovery schemes.

Through the Sustainable Farming Incentive, farmers will be paid for environmentally sustainable actions – ones that are simple to do and do not require previous agri-environment scheme experience.

We are piloting the scheme to...
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