WN Lindsay sold to Simpsons Malt

[Farmer Fin]

Are Simpson’s making ex Lindsay growers buy seed barley for the contract?

 

[Chae1]

Are Simpson’s making ex Lindsay growers buy seed barley for the contract?

Yes.

 

[jd2013]

Are Simpson’s making ex Lindsay growers buy seed barley for the contract?

No

 

[Chae1]

No

You must be special! I have to.

What's your name? I'll cancel my order.

 

[jd2013]

The reason for buying their seed is for traceability. As I buy from nickersons (limagrain) I pointed all theirs is traceable too,

 

[Chae1]

The reason for buying their seed is for traceability. As I buy from nickersons (limagrain) I pointed all theirs is traceable too,

Why didn't you just buy it from them if your buying in seed anyway?

 

[jd2013]

Cheaper! And I have dealt with my seed supplier for decades. Try to stay loyal as much as possible. Not much of it theft in the world

 

[Chae1]

Cheaper! And I have dealt with my seed supplier for decades. Try to stay loyal as much as possible. Not much of it theft in the world

Theft?

There nae not that dear are they.

 

[jd2013]

SORRY left

 

[jd2013]

Grain merchants, Theft , Do those words ever enter the same sentence?

 

[Farmer Fin]

Theft?

There nae not that dear are they.

Have you not had the quote yet??
We have dealt with Simpson’s for a number of years and find them good. The annoyance is the seed issue. We fell out with Lindsay several years ago. As you said only shafted once.
Not sure what the spot market price will be this year. They say they are malting as normal and the demand is there.

 

[Chae1]

Grain merchants, Theft , Do those words ever enter the same sentence?

That's a good point with regards the price. I could get seed cheaper elsewhere also.

My dressed seed out the heap will cost me £275/t including royalties. There's is over £400/t. Cost me £13/acre more buying seed from them.

Anyway I'll bend over and take it this year. Hopefully they remember that at harvest.

 

[Farmer Fin]

How are people finding germination? Checked our laureate and Diablo and both were 90%. Have bought some Sassy seed and will be checking that when it gets home. Here the seed companies are struggling.

 

[ollie989898]

The reason for buying their seed is for traceability. As I buy from nickersons (limagrain) I pointed all theirs is traceable too,

Rubbish, loads of people will be growing malting barley around the country and will have home-saved the seed.

 

[jd2013]

Rubbish, loads of people will be growing malting barley around the country and will have home-saved the seed.

Whats "Rubbish",
Merely pointing out how the merchants are trying to justify their stance on buying seed and pointed out to them my present way of purchasing seed covers this.

 

[Brisel]

How are people finding germination? Checked our laureate and Diablo and both were 90%. Have bought some Sassy seed and will be checking that when it gets home. Here the seed companies are struggling.

This isn’t for barley, but my home saved beans, wheat and oats all were around 85-90%. Normally that’s much higher. Even over yeared seed is higher than that!

 

[Chae1]

Rubbish, loads of people will be growing malting barley around the country and will have home-saved the seed.

I think what he's trying to say by traceability is varietal purity. That was what I was told was reason for them wanting to supply seed.

 

[ollie989898]

Whats "Rubbish",
Merely pointing out how the merchants are trying to justify their stance on buying seed and pointed out to them my present way of purchasing seed covers this.

There is no justification on the grounds of 'traceability'- whoever told you that is fabricating the truth quite frankly. There are plenty of genuine sources for malting barley seed and all of them will be above board because seed in general is a tightly regulated business. That said, there is absolutely nothing to prevent a farmer from saving his own seed and using it to grow a particular variety of malting barley. In fact, given that the farmer will know the cleanliness and provenance of the stuff you could say he has a better chance of controlling or ensuring it's quality than anyone.

 

[ollie989898]

I think what he's trying to say by traceability is varietal purity. That was what I was told was reason for them wanting to supply seed.

They want to supply the seed because there is obviously a chance to make margin from it which is fair enough, but to suggest other sources of seed are unreliable is absolute pish given the hurdles that many seed producers and processers have to jump though.

 

[Chae1]

They want to supply the seed because there is obviously a chance to make margin from it which is fair enough, but to suggest other sources of seed are unreliable is absolute pish given the hurdles that many seed producers and processers have to jump though.

Can't get more traceable than this! Never left the farm it will be planted on again.

Been getting seed ready during wintry weather. It's a auger bucket for feeding cows. Other forklift has rds weigher on lift.