Country getting close to anarchy??

Probably.

Equally, a lack of fear and force often equals zero control over outcomes, and the whole suffers as the fraction of "non compliant individuals" increases.

That's why I cull sh!t animals rather than medicate sh!t animals, the cost to the flock as a whole is too great.

Really? I
That's a great question - my answer is that no discipline is absolutely child abuse, just as too much discipline is child abuse.
A lack of discipline sets a child up to fail.

It's where you draw the TWO lines that's important - knowing that you can steal and not even the Police will act, is permission by default in some minds.

Then, there comes the sticky issue of what makes "self defence" a defence - you can't exactly chase a burglar down the street taking potshots and claim you were defending property.

But, come home in the middle of the day and find a masked youth in your child's bedroom, then you can. I did, quite successfully, in a court of law.

Did you hit your kids?
 

beardface

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Location
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Where do you draw the line between discipline and child abuse?

I don't see lack of the cane as any problem, more that smaller families with greater incomes tends to increase a childs level of expectation.

It's not so much violent discipline but just general discipline and guidance that's lacking in a lot of cases. My wife is a year leader and sees it all. Most bad kids come from families where the parents think there sh!t doesn't stink. When you fill a generation with a feeling of entitlement you end up where we are....
 

Scribus

Member
Location
Central Atlantic
It's not so much violent discipline but just general discipline and guidance that's lacking in a lot of cases. My wife is a year leader and sees it all. Most bad kids come from families where the parents think there sh!t doesn't stink. When you fill a generation with a feeling of entitlement you end up where we are....
I think we come to the same conclusion but from different angles.
 

Hilly

Member
Something I've been pointing out to those who can't understand why society behaves as it does.
How magnanimous of you, when a prime minister asks society to stay indoors dose all them that think he’s a decent guy he’s trying help us I think it’s not a big deal I will , dose that make all
Them people insecure ? Because if it dose it’s a pity everyone wasn’t a little insecure then isn’t it, what a better web we would have woven.
 

Scribus

Member
Location
Central Atlantic
How magnanimous of you, when a prime minister asks society to stay indoors dose all them that think he’s a decent guy he’s trying help us I think it’s not a big deal I will , dose that make all
Them people insecure ? Because if it dose it’s a pity everyone wasn’t a little insecure then isn’t it, what a better web we would have woven.
No, I think you are insecure because you appear to want others to bully people on your behalf.
 

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