Country getting close to anarchy??

Hooby Farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
roe valley
It's not so much violent discipline but just general discipline and guidance that's lacking in a lot of cases. My wife is a year leader and sees it all. Most bad kids come from families where the parents think there sh!t doesn't stink. When you fill a generation with a feeling of entitlement you end up where we are....

I've been an active member in my MMA club for about 10 years. Poorly disciplined young guys learn fast actually turn out to be some of our best attendees. My coach and I were asked into the school by head teacher of one of our attendees, he did x y and z with serious consequences asked us if we could help out outside of school. There life could be a shambles but the structure of being somewhere at at certain time everyday, clean and presentable can change them right around. If you are late you don't train, if you are smelly go wash and come back, if you are disrespectful dropped from the fight team no fights for a while. If you act the arsehole outsider the club you will get knocked around in a heavy spar amazing what 6months can do to a person.
 

Hilly

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I've been an active member in my MMA club for about 10 years. Poorly disciplined young guys learn fast actually turn out to be some of our best attendees. My coach and I were asked into the school by head teacher of one of our attendees, he did x y and z with serious consequences asked us if we could help out outside of school. There life could be a shambles but the structure of being somewhere at at certain time everyday, clean and presentable can change them right around. If you are late you don't train, if you are smelly go wash and come back, if you are disrespectful dropped from the fight team no fights for a while. If you act the arsehole outsider the club you will get knocked around in a heavy spar amazing what 6months can do to a person.

national service would have been good to keep going , I’d of loved to do it .
 

egbert

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Livestock Farmer
Like he said all along everything at the right time. Last night was our last warning about social distancing while necessary legislation goes through. By the weekend it will be martial law. Tbh I think the army should of been fielded last week. Most public bodies including the NHS couldn't organise a pee up in a brewery whereas the army are designed for situations like this. As scary as martial law may appear to the public it will be the biggest benefit under current situation. Foot and mouth is the most recent example of how quickly the army can bring a situstion under control.
Not that this is the same, but from what I saw in 2001, the MoD weren't any use whatsoever.
 

shumungus

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Livestock Farmer
Like he said all along everything at the right time. Last night was our last warning about social distancing while necessary legislation goes through. By the weekend it will be martial law. Tbh I think the army should of been fielded last week. Most public bodies including the NHS couldn't organise a pee up in a brewery whereas the army are designed for situations like this. As scary as martial law may appear to the public it will be the biggest benefit under current situation. Foot and mouth is the most recent example of how quickly the army can bring a situstion under control.
A situation under control you say. During the heavy snow of the spring of 2013 DARD requested help from the military to get forage to stranded sheep in the mountains and glens of Antrim, they duly obliged and two Chinooks were supplied to RAF Aldergrove where Round Bales of silage and a few pallets of high energy licks were provided. They were given the location of flocks in need, they loaded up and then set off, dropping them in the wrong places! When this error was discovered (they had made an error translating the DARD maps to their own) they set off again and this time took the care to drop the supplies beside where they seen the sheep in the locality of these remote locations, it was deemed a success. Days later when farmers began to get to their sheep they were reporting finding ewes dead where they had congregated beside the feed drops. The wrap was still intact on the bales and the lids were still on the lick buckets FFS.
 

Hilly

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A situation under control you say. During the heavy snow of the spring of 2013 DARD requested help from the military to get forage to stranded sheep in the mountains and glens of Antrim, they duly obliged and two Chinooks were supplied to RAF Aldergrove where Round Bales of silage and a few pallets of high energy licks were provided. They were given the location of flocks in need, they loaded up and then set off, dropping them in the wrong places! When this error was discovered (they had made an error translating the DARD maps to their own) they set off again and this time took the care to drop the supplies beside where they seen the sheep in the locality of these remote locations, it was deemed a success. Days later when farmers began to get to their sheep they were reporting finding ewes dead where they had congregated beside the feed drops. The wrap was still intact on the bales and the lids were still on the lick buckets FFS.
Bloody hell.
 

steveR

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Mixed Farmer
A situation under control you say. During the heavy snow of the spring of 2013 DARD requested help from the military to get forage to stranded sheep in the mountains and glens of Antrim, they duly obliged and two Chinooks were supplied to RAF Aldergrove where Round Bales of silage and a few pallets of high energy licks were provided. They were given the location of flocks in need, they loaded up and then set off, dropping them in the wrong places! When this error was discovered (they had made an error translating the DARD maps to their own) they set off again and this time took the care to drop the supplies beside where they seen the sheep in the locality of these remote locations, it was deemed a success. Days later when farmers began to get to their sheep they were reporting finding ewes dead where they had congregated beside the feed drops. The wrap was still intact on the bales and the lids were still on the lick buckets FFS.

Townies innit.... ;)

There is an attitude within some military (and Police) senior bods that they know best, when a 5 min chat would have resolved such silliness
 

Agrivator

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A situation under control you say. During the heavy snow of the spring of 2013 DARD requested help from the military to get forage to stranded sheep in the mountains and glens of Antrim, they duly obliged and two Chinooks were supplied to RAF Aldergrove where Round Bales of silage and a few pallets of high energy licks were provided. They were given the location of flocks in need, they loaded up and then set off, dropping them in the wrong places! When this error was discovered (they had made an error translating the DARD maps to their own) they set off again and this time took the care to drop the supplies beside where they seen the sheep in the locality of these remote locations, it was deemed a success. Days later when farmers began to get to their sheep they were reporting finding ewes dead where they had congregated beside the feed drops. The wrap was still intact on the bales and the lids were still on the lick buckets FFS.

Conditions must have been worse than 1947 and 1963 if farmers and shepherds couldn't get to their sheep, particularly when the feed for them was already in situ. And unlike 1963, in 2013 we had big 4WD tractors and even snowmobiles.

But I take the point about the lids still being on the licks.
 

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