Range Rover 50th Aniversary

ollie989898 · Jun 17, 2020

Lincsman said:
That makes sense then, LR can show a profit over manufacturing cost much easier, say the real cost to them is £20k they show a big profit on the rentals and eventual sale, and it gets car on the road to entice more buyers at List.

The main bonus is for company owners/directors who use the car to offset their tax liability. It is a pure cost to the business and so eats into tax. Not the cheapest way to run a car by any means but people do it.

I do know someone who runs a little Toyota thing on lease or whatever the heck it is called. The payments are of course a lot more reasonable but you still don't own a car at the end of it. I think for some drivers the idea of owning/servicing/tyres or whatever in a car scare the hell out of them frankly so they would rather pay what is in effect a monster mobile phone bill and just drive something spangly. Once electric cars become mainstream it will become even more popular because people won't see the cost of fuel.

Car companies must love it because they are getting the drip-drip-drip of guaranteed risk-free income and demand for new cars is artificially inflated. Someone turning up, buying a new car with 30,000 quid and then disappearing never to be seen again at a manufacturer backed dealer is no good to them.

essexpete · Jun 17, 2020

Lincsman said:
That makes sense then, LR can show a profit over manufacturing cost much easier, say the real cost to them is £20k they show a big profit on the rentals and eventual sale, and it gets car on the road to entice more buyers at List.

And sell spares parts and service items.

Roger Perry · Jun 18, 2020

Chris F said:
No idea - 50 years of inflation is a lot. What price were they back in 1970? Probably twice a heavy now!

They were like 1,975 GBP
Remember a neighbor buying several and then selling them for like 3k they were in so much demand.

puma power · Jun 18, 2020

I had a P38 4.6 HSE I think I was 20 and thought I was the nuts! Sold @mtx.jag my 300 tdi disco to help fund it! The Range Rover broke down literally weekly! But still one of the best cars I've ever had! Those that know, just know.

I've got a L322 know as a farm truck. Would change our X4 for a Sport tomorrow.

I always said when I had the P38 it was like being married to a porn star, it would cheat on you by breaking down, but you'd take one look it and go 'f**k it give it one more chance' and it would do it all over again.

I may be mad but just simply the best!

mtx.jag · Jun 18, 2020

puma power said:
I had a P38 4.6 HSE I think I was 20 and thought I was the nuts! Sold @mtx.jag my 300 tdi disco to help fund it! The Range Rover broke down literally weekly! But still one of the best cars I've ever had! Those that know, just know.

I've got a L322 know as a farm truck. Would change our X4 for a Sport tomorrow.

I always said when I had the P38 it was like being married to a porn star, it would cheat on you by breaking down, but you'd take one look it and go 'fudge it give it one more chance' and it would do it all over again.

I may be mad but just simply the best!

That 300tdi was bloody brilliant,i would have another any day if you could find one that wasn’t rotting ?

Two Tone · Jun 18, 2020

I have a RR Sport with the 3.0 tdv6. I’ve owned it longer (7 years) than I’ve ever owned any other vehicle. It has been very reliable, is very pretty, an absolute pleasure to drive and I‘m not in the least bit inclined to want to change it for anything else whatsoever.

The only other vehicle that interests me is the new Defender. But clever as it is, it just ain’t a RR.

There really is only one vehicle that will go anywhere in the world, including Buckingham Palace with pride, that it matters not what age it is. Its first name just must begin with Range.

Just don’t ever, ever, ever take them to any franchised dealer, ever!!
And it’ll be fine.

Drillman · Jun 18, 2020

mtx.jag said:
That 300tdi was bloody brilliant,i would have another any day if you could find one that wasn’t rotting ?

I had a couple of V8 discos then we got a 300tdi as well. I took it on a trip down the motorway once and and at one point couldn't work out why in the outside lane the cars in front were getting further away. Then the penny dropped poor auld girl was flat out. The V8s even the 3.5 were a fair bit faster.

mtx.jag · Jun 18, 2020

Drillman said:
I had a couple of V8 discos then we got a 300tdi as well. I took it on a trip down the motorway once and and at one point couldn't work out why in the outside lane the cars in front were getting further away. Then the penny dropped poor auld girl was flat out. The V8s even the 3.5 were a fair bit faster.

She was auto and went like the clappers literally,I’m not sure if the previous owner had tweeked it but it went a lot better than the one that replaced it after I parked it on its roof on black ice ?

Drillman · Jun 18, 2020

mtx.jag said:
She was auto and went like the clappers literally,I’m not sure if the previous owner had tweeked it but it went a lot better than the one that replaced it after I parked it on its roof on black ice ?

Ours was the make work gearbox and I reckon had a few horses missing. Poor thing had a hard time with us and eventually set it self on fire in a building. Fortunately we weren’t far away and dragged it out before the whole farm burnt down! Insurance payout on it was a lot better than it’s true value by that point!

Cowabunga · Jun 18, 2020

Chris F said:
No idea - 50 years of inflation is a lot. What price were they back in 1970? Probably twice a heavy now!

They were very expensive. Even back in 1986 when I bought my first one, you could buy a nice four bedroom town house for the same money. At least you could around here. Not now though. The same house would now cost between two and three new full fat Range Rovers. So you might deduce that Range Rovers are better value than ever today. Unfortunately though, while I could easily afford a new one back then, the same is no longer true. At 12p per litre for my milk in April and 15p for May, I can barely afford a bicycle today.

Paddington · Jun 19, 2020

There was an old Land Rover advert showing someone about to set off on a journey with the line "The adventure begins". I reckon the copywriter must have owned a Range Rover because that line was certainly true, you never knew what was going to fall off or break next....As each new model was produced Land Rover swore on their grandmother's grave that this model was more reliable than the last, but it never was. Built with the same care and attention as generations of BL before them "that' do, near enough, mate", they were lovely to drive when working properly and a PITA when not. As well as spare fuel, oil, water and fan belts I always carried a box of spare parts including door handles for the 2 door Classic which used to snap off at regular intervals. Several trips come to mind. I was stopped by the police about to enter a flooded road before being waved on. The policeman then started yelling at me as I drove off and retrieved what I thought was a large fish from the water. Turned out to be my silencer, I went back to get it, filled the top of his wellies with water, then turned round again and drove on. Other incidents included a complete loss of lights at night in the Lakes on an emergency to get an ambulance, a complete loss of brakes at 70mph on the M25 and a broken throttle cable when overtaking on a three lane road. There was another ad "It's never over in a Rover" which was also very true.

JP1 · Jun 19, 2020

Chris F said:
So 2k back then is about £40k now with the vat. Certainly doesn't get you a new FF Range Rover! Does it get you in an Evoque or another baby RR though? Not a million miles off I guess and the tech has moved on a bit.

Which is maybe about where a specced Ineos Grenadier might be in the near future

Very sad to see how our UK motor industry ; cars and trucks has gone

Wombat · Jun 19, 2020

Found this in some old magazines

£1998

Roger Perry · Jun 19, 2020

Is that guy smoking ....................?

chaffcutter · Jun 19, 2020

I have to say that having owned three different models of RR vogue and two RR Sports over about twenty years, we only ever had one breakdown on the road, and none of the problems that others seemed to find common.

Clive's leased one has been an absolute dog though!

Netherfield · Jun 19, 2020

£2000 was the list price when first brought out, no chance of any discount at all, because there was a long waiting list. At the same time a 850 mini van was £500 and the 1000 engine £521. I bought the mini, they wouldn't let a common oik like me even look inside.

Local corn merchant we dealt with had the first one out of Copley Motors dealership just outside Halifax.

Cowabunga · Jun 19, 2020

I worked for a chap that had a 1971 basic Range Rover with the 100% plastic seats and trim. It had a vacuum system for changing range. The four speed main gearbox was 'slow'. It rolled a heck of a lot. Had an 8 track stereo. Main problem was that it was terribly unreliable. Great farm workhorse though.
I remember like yesterday being driven in it at night from near Edinburgh down the A1, only small parts of which were dual carriageway back then, in the dark in a dense fog, down to Essex. The lights were no better than candles and they kept on being coated with dark grey road sludge and needed to be manually cleaned using a cloth every 50 miles or so, because they became just dim sidelights by then.

Chae1 · Jun 19, 2020

chaffcutter said:
I have to say that having owned three different models of RR vogue and two RR Sports over about twenty years, we only ever had one breakdown on the road, and none of the problems that others seemed to find common.

Clive's leased one has been an absolute dog though!

But do you lease them and hand them back at 3 years old with 30k miles on them?

Not really much of a test is it?

Can buy a kia with 7 years 100k mile warranty, do land rover offer anything similar?

My friends range rover sport has just had a new engine at under 40k miles. Luckily it was approved used. Suspension went on fathers last tdv8 one. Was going to be over 6k to repair at independent body off job.

Hes Currently got a 66 plate tdv6 sport which to be fair to it has been faultless.

Drillman · Jun 19, 2020

Chae1 said:
But do you lease them and hand them back at 3 years old with 30k miles on them?

Not really much of a test is it?

Can buy a kia with 7 years 100k mile warranty, do land rover offer anything similar?

My friends range rover sport has just had a new engine at under 40k miles. Luckily it was approved used. Suspension went on fathers last tdv8 one. Was going to be over 6k to repair at independent body off job.

Hes Currently got a 66 plate tdv6 sport which to be fair to it has been faultless.

Aye and from what I’ve seen by year 8 most KIA are scrap! Know of a few that struggled to be Kept going by the end of the warranty period.

roscoe erf · Jun 19, 2020

Chris F said:
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Lets see some your your pictures of Range rovers gone by. You don;t see the Coupe's very often now.

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