Range Rover 50th Aniversary

[Chris F]

That's the one and a cf bedford van was £800. Are you sure it wasn't £1,999. 19s &11d ? I can remember them both in a show room in Tunbridge Wells. I had to go with a second hand petrol 2a long wheelbase truck in the end for £200..

So 2k back then is about £40k now with the vat. Certainly doesn't get you a new FF Range Rover! Does it get you in an Evoque or another baby RR though? Not a million miles off I guess and the tech has moved on a bit.

 

[Exfarmer]

Think they were very close to £2k at the start.seem to remember the first one I looked at was £2,200, not that I was in a position to buy one at the time

 

[ollie989898]

Think they use to get them on "mobility " a while back if paid max deposit??

No idea but you have to pay a deposit just to get the thing built to your specification. You pay the monthly lease and it goes back at a set time and is replaced by a new one.

The depreciation on an owned one is horrendous, I know someone who did it. Back a bit when they still had supercharged V8s. Cost £96K new and was offered £12K by the dealer 3 years (and lots of business miles) later.

 

[CPF]

The only way to own these things is by paying the monthly lease and letting the dealer worry about maintaining it and depreciating it. The two people I know with these cars do exactly that and never own them. They depreciate like nothing else as soon as you start putting miles on them. It therefore makes sense for people with a business who just use them to smash against tax.

That’s ok when you’re on business and going to see customers ,and you break down on the way ,you have to explain to them that you’re going to it late for a meeting doesn’t go in your favour.

 

[ollie989898]

That’s ok when you’re on business and going to see customers ,and you break down on the way ,you have to explain to them that you’re going to it late for a meeting doesn’t go in your favour.

I don't think either of the two individuals I have in mind would give a fudge and the kind of customers they have would not either. Ringing ahead and telling them your Range Rover has soiled it's bed-linen would probably be well received and a good chuckle.

 

[Exfarmer]

Had a Sport in the old model v8 diesel 3.6 one best vehicle I ever owned 80,000 miles one wheel bearing and an alternator in repairs ,yes brake pads ,discs and bushings but you expect that . Took a good sports saloon to be quicker across country in the real world.
Have a Sport tdv8 4.4 in the current model seriously sweet engine, great long distance cruiser.

I had a V8 sport, lovely car but the rest oh dear! And dealers telling you that you need 3 new tyres at a service and not wanting to let the car go without me paying £1300 for them. After my regular tyre co told me that there was nothing wrong with two and third needed minor repair, saw me head off to the beamer dealer

 

[lucas]

That's the one and a cf bedford van was £800. Are you sure it wasn't £1,999. 19s &11d ? I can remember them both in a show room in Tunbridge Wells. I had to go with a second hand petrol 2a long wheelbase truck in the end for £200..

His cousin was heard at the time, why would anyone pay that much for a Land Rover, not a lot has changed

 

[7610 super q]

Are they all crap ? Every single model ? Every single one that came off the production line ?
50 years seems like a long production run for a crap vehicle.
Not a fan BTW, but I do like the first 1970's ones.

 

[Bald Rick]

will never forget towing a race car in germany with my fist ...

Blimey... you da man

 

[startinghandle]

I remember in the late 70's onwards there was a lot of diesel conversions with various makes of engines
Also one fairly local which was originally a press release model and was number 28 of the production line had registration NXC
I know the owner has died but I would say is still in family

 

[Drillman]

The one on the left for me please.

pop an overdrive on it and it still be capable of keeping up with traffic flow nowadays and also not too bad at handling all things considered and with alll round disc brakes stops just fine as well.

 

[suffolksmallholder]

IMO they were a fantastic all-rounder in their original incarnation. Now they're just ugly and rather pointless.
SS

 

[Lincsman]

The only way to own these things is by paying the monthly lease and letting the dealer worry about maintaining it and depreciating it. The two people I know with these cars do exactly that and never own them. They depreciate like nothing else as soon as you start putting miles on them. It therefore makes sense for people with a business who just use them to smash against tax.

So the leasing companies loose a fortune on these cars then? or have they bought them with a 70% discount?

 

[Robt]

A full fat vogue will be about £1200 to £2000 per month to lease . So... let’s say best case £28k take off 4K of servicing per year . That’s 24k per year. I really don’t see how they make it pay

 

[Robt]

I had a vogue for a week when my disco 4 had wiring fixed after rodent damage. It really was amazing. I’ve driven top end merc m class , Audi Q7, there simply is no comparison. It’s just effortless to drive and so nice

 

[Lincsman]

A full fat vogue will be about £1200 to £2000 per month to lease . So... let’s say best case £28k take off 4K of servicing per year . That’s 24k per year. I really don’t see how they make it pay

Maybe the do get them at half price, I am sure LR can afford to sell them at that price as long as its a "secret" (higher the car price bigger the margin as the saying goes, they cant really cost £90k to make) as long as there are some who will go and pay full list it all keeps working.

 

[ollie989898]

So the leasing companies loose a fortune on these cars then? or have they bought them with a 70% discount?

I have no idea how it works in detail but it is not uncommon, the people I mentioned were doing the deal with Land Rover themselves. You pay a monthly sum but the car is swapped for a new one when the agreed period elapses. You are, in effect, just paying a monthly fee for the privilege of driving the car. You don't ever own it and so you avoid the heft depreciation that would result if you did.

The only cars these two individuals actually own would be fairly rare ones that will either gain in value during ownership or they are that exotic that the depreciation would be modest anyway because they are waiting in a build queue.

I dare say once the first 'owner' was done with the car Land Rover sell it at a price that suits them.

 

[Clive]

A full fat vogue will be about £1200 to £2000 per month to lease . So... let’s say best case £28k take off 4K of servicing per year . That’s 24k per year. I really don’t see how they make it pay

it’s the only sensible way to run one

big fleet discounts and vat are the only reason lease co’s can make it work but I would be pretty sure they lost money on my last one !

 

[Clive]

I have no idea how it works in detail but it is not uncommon, the people I mentioned were doing the deal with Land Rover themselves. You pay a monthly sum but the car is swapped for a new one when the agreed period elapses. You are, in effect, just paying a monthly fee for the privilege of driving the car. You don't ever own it and so you avoid the heft depreciation that would result if you did.

The only cars these two individuals actually own would be fairly rare ones that will either gain in value during ownership or they are that exotic that the depreciation would be modest anyway because they are waiting in a build queue.

I dare say once the first 'owner' was done with the car Land Rover sell it at a price that suits them.

same ethos as I have, only own appreciating cars, the other type are just transport !

 

[Lincsman]

I have no idea how it works in detail but it is not uncommon, the people I mentioned were doing the deal with Land Rover themselves. You pay a monthly sum but the car is swapped for a new one when the agreed period elapses. You are, in effect, just paying a monthly fee for the privilege of driving the car. You don't ever own it and so you avoid the heft depreciation that would result if you did.

The only cars these two individuals actually own would be fairly rare ones that will either gain in value during ownership or they are that exotic that the depreciation would be modest anyway because they are waiting in a build queue.

I dare say once the first 'owner' was done with the car Land Rover sell it at a price that suits them.

That makes sense then, LR can show a profit over manufacturing cost much easier, say the real cost to them is £20k they show a big profit on the rentals and eventual sale, and it gets car on the road to entice more buyers at List.