Spanners in tractor tool box

Yorkshire lad

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Mixed Farmer

Location

YO42

• Sep 22, 2020

• #1

I used to have 10 ,13 ,14 ,17 ,19 ,22 and 24mm spanners in my tractor tool box . With these I could sort most problems out in the field. I could look at a nut and know what size it was . Now it seems i have to have a every size from 10 to 25 Why do we now need 15 ,16mm ect when we did not before I spent today cursing and doubting the parentage of John Deere engineers and executives
Just one of the many things in life that pish me off these days

 

dowcow

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Location

Lancashire

• Sep 22, 2020

• #2

I'm sure my father told me the old MF 35 had one double ended spanner that could undo any bolt on the whole tractor. Can't be right, surely?

 

Lincs Lass

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Location

north lincs

• Sep 22, 2020

• #3

16mm used to be injector nut size

 

Bobthebuilder

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Mixed Farmer

Location

northumberland

• Sep 22, 2020

• #4

It seems to be European legislation to have awkward size nuts n bolts on machines now along with torx head screws

 

Still Farming

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Mixed Farmer

Location

South Wales UK

• Sep 22, 2020

• #5

dowcow said:

I'm sure my father told me the old MF 35 had one double ended spanner that could undo any bolt on the whole tractor. Can't be right, surely?

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Fergi spanner,fitted all.

 

rob h

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Location

east yorkshire

• Sep 22, 2020

• #6

its so the can sell more spanner’s

 

eagleye

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Location

co down

• Sep 22, 2020

• #7

wait till you get an opico drier, its all imperial - bearings and allen keys too.

 

Clive

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Arable Farmer

Location

Lichfield

• Sep 22, 2020

• #8

while on the subject why do you get some bolts with different sized nuts ?

15mm bolts with 16mm nuts seem to be getting common on cars these days

there must be a reason ? surely?

 

Muddyroads

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NFFN Member

Location

Exeter, Devon

• Sep 22, 2020

• #9

Clive said:

while on the subject why do you get some bolts with different sized nuts ?

15mm bolts with 16mm nuts seem to be getting common on cars these days

there must be a reason ? surely?

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So that you don’t need 2 15mm spanner’s?

 

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glasshouse

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Location

lothians

• Sep 22, 2020

• #10

Clive said:

while on the subject why do you get some bolts with different sized nuts ?

15mm bolts with 16mm nuts seem to be getting common on cars these days

there must be a reason ? surely?

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To drive u nuts

 

dowcow

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Location

Lancashire

• Sep 22, 2020

• #11

eagleye said:

wait till you get an opico drier, its all imperial - bearings and allen keys too.

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It's finally got to the stage here where I can't think of a machine that needs an Imperial spanner anymore. I've finally pulled the Whitworth spanners out of the main toolbox and rendered them to the 'odds and sods' bin in the corner, but some Imperials have metric equivelents, so they can stay, for now. I hope desperately that post Brexit we don't get some nutjob running the country hellbent on de-metrification.

 

Boysground

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Mixed Farmer

Location

Wiltshire

• Sep 22, 2020

• #12

Why do claas lifter bolts need both 16 and 17 mm spanners? And why do vaderstad use 18 mm for the arms on the wheel scrapers. I always seem to loose those spanners

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Blue.

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Livestock Farmer

• Sep 22, 2020

• #13

Bobthebuilder said:

It seems to be European legislation to have awkward size nuts n bolts on machines now along with torx head screws

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What is the point of Torx head? it’s not exactly anti tamper,it’s just ffing annoying.

 

yellowfrog

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Arable Farmer

Location

somerset

• Sep 23, 2020

• #14

look after an american self propelled yard scrapper. had to find all my imperial spanners and sockets

 

Fragonard

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• Sep 23, 2020

• #15

Boysground said:

Why do claas lifter bolts need both 16 and 17 mm spanners? And why do vaderstad use 18 mm for the arms on the wheel scrapers. I always seem to loose those spanners

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Kuhn mower blades are 18 also

 

nick...

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Arable Farmer

Location

south norfolk

• Sep 23, 2020

• #16

Must admit I’ve not been in my AF spanner’s tool box for at least 3 years.only use my metric tool,toolbox
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Fendtbro

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• Sep 23, 2020

• #17

eulb said:

What is the point of Torx head? it’s not exactly anti tamper,it’s just ffing annoying.

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Better than Allen heads that round off easily. Allen heads should be made illegal..

 

DrDunc

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Livestock Farmer

Location

Dunsyre

• Sep 23, 2020

• #18

Weight reduction

When developing the BMW mini (near 25 years ago now ) it was too fat. Bolt heads were made smaller, it got 4 stud wheels not 5, small flange nuts instead of standard nut and washer, etc etc etc

Amazing how the few grams here and there added up to a couple of hundred kilos lighter prototypes.

Now it's about cost

A smaller bolt head uses less metal, a few cents less production cost. Provided the torque is acceptable, it means more profit!

 

Boysground

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Mixed Farmer

Location

Wiltshire

• Sep 23, 2020

• #19

yellowfrog said:

look after an american self propelled yard scrapper. had to find all my imperial spanners and sockets

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My auto scraper system is Gea Houle. Built in metric Canada, the entire system is imperial I guess for the American market.

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Dave6170

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Location

Watten, caithness

• Sep 23, 2020

• #20

I dont like the bolts on mf pto shaft, what are those types of head called? The circlip on the old 6170 was far better!