Dissertation Research - Lynx Reintroduction Admin Approved

MS2022 · Jun 1, 2022

Hi,

My name is David and I am a student at Scotland's Rural College doing dissertation research on the potential reintroduction of the lynx. I'm specifically focusing on farming opinions towards the reintroduction, and what makes a fair reintroduction. If you have a minute, I would very much appreciate any responses to my survey - it takes no longer than 10 minutes:
https://qfreeaccountssjc1.az1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_6zhgTjsnM6Cbalw

This survey is not affiliated with any pre-existing government, or private lynx research - it is purely for academic purposes. If you have any questions please don't hesitate to contact me at [email protected]

Many thanks,
David

Ffermer Bach · Jun 1, 2022

no need to research, virtually 100 % of sheep keepers would be against it, however quite a large percentage of landowners would be in favour I would bet, as quite a lot of land is owned by charities who dislike farmers and equally want to virtue signal. I would think most livestock farmers would dislike the idea.

steveR · Jun 1, 2022

David, I suspect that you will few, if any, livestock keepers anywhere, who would consider the introduction (it is not a re-introduction!) of a top line predator to be sensible or well considered. Keep any release of any such animals on Scottish island, not in the wider landscape.

Castle Farm · Jun 1, 2022

You need to get a job my boy that doesn't involved following a woke bunch of left wing loonies.

steveR · Jun 1, 2022

Castle Farm said:
You need to get a job my boy that doesn't involved following a woke bunch of left wing loonies.

He has.....

"Working as a bartender for Scottish Rugby Hospitality for Edinburgh Rugby and Scottish Rugby matches" from Linkedin.

Which if it is the same guy, is a very sensible service to the community!

Humble Village Farmer · Jun 1, 2022

It'll be a bit like poking a hornet's nest asking questions like that on here.

There's only one way to test this which is to conduct an experiment on an island with both deer and sheep owned by a willing participant, if such a place exists. So if it goes wrong, at least it would be contained.

You will only get strongly polarised views without further evidence.

Doing it for the kids · Jun 1, 2022

Surely the question is why?

If it Gives farmer a shred of hassle they should be compensated and paid extra for the time in releasing this compensation

Ffermer Bach · Jun 1, 2022

very easy to be in favour of something that doesn't affect you!

Dry Rot · Jun 1, 2022

No shortage of night vision and young lads wanting to use it these days. I can't see them lasting long in the Highlands. Scottish wild cats were really stupid coming to a call when they were around. Not half the brain of a fox.

MS2022 · Jun 1, 2022

Ffermer Bach said:
no need to research, virtually 100 % of sheep keepers would be against it, however quite a large percentage of landowners would be in favour I would bet, as quite a lot of land is owned by charities who dislike farmers and equally want to virtue signal. I would think most livestock farmers would dislike the idea.

do you think livestock farmers might like the idea more if proper efforts were pre-emptively made to prevent the loss of livestock? e.g., reinforced fencing or guard-dogs etc

toquark · Jun 1, 2022

MS2022 said:
do you think livestock farmers might like the idea more if proper efforts were pre-emptively made to prevent the loss of livestock? e.g., reinforced fencing or guard-dogs etc

And who pays for that?

steveR · Jun 1, 2022

MS2022 said:
do you think livestock farmers might like the idea more if proper efforts were pre-emptively made to prevent the loss of livestock? e.g., reinforced fencing or guard-dogs etc

On open moor...? C'mon please sensible suggestion only. There is not a chance in hell that any livestock farmer would entertain such a predator release. We care for our stock, in spite of what some from the wierder fringes of society might feel .

Reinforced fencing around the Lynx "might" have a chance, right up until the first storm brings a tree down

toquark · Jun 1, 2022

They told us Sea Eagles wouldn't take livestock. It took SNH over a decade to admit that they do, in that decade many lambing percentages on the west coast dropped 30-40%.

Compensation? Nope. Culling? Forget it. You just have to get on with it pal, don't you know the future is trees and tourists?

Humble Village Farmer · Jun 1, 2022

What controls lynx or stops them turning into a pride? Is it the wolf? That would put the kybosh on a good amount of livestock farming.

I find this ecosystem thing fascinating, but how many species do you need to bring in to balance the whole thing up?

DaveGrohl · Jun 1, 2022

Christ Almighty, if you’re that fascinated by these predators watch the bloody things on David Attenburgh and stop destroying the lives of animals and people who have never done you any harm. Do you think because you don’t actually know them then that makes it alright?

Longlowdog · Jun 1, 2022

I would suggest the island of Rum would be an ideal test site. They have every square inch mapped and studied, they could introduce a population of predator naive sheep (as all commercial sheep are) and see exactly what happens to the red deer and the sheep. Job sorted.

curlietailz · Jun 1, 2022

MS2022 said:
do you think livestock farmers might like the idea more if proper efforts were pre-emptively made to prevent the loss of livestock? e.g., reinforced fencing or guard-dogs etc

But why should they

steveR · Jun 1, 2022

Longlowdog said:
I would suggest the island of Rum would be an ideal test site. They have every square inch mapped and studied, they could introduce a population of predator naive sheep (as all commercial sheep are) and see exactly what happens to the red deer and the sheep. Job sorted.

I will make a suggestion that the sheep will go first....

Humble Village Farmer · Jun 1, 2022

DaveGrohl said:
Christ Almighty, if you’re that fascinated by these predators watch the bloody things on David Attenburgh and stop destroying the lives of animals and people who have never done you any harm. Do you think because you don’t actually know them then that makes it alright?

I didn't know I was destroying the lives of animals and people. Sorry

melted welly · Jun 1, 2022

Humble Village Farmer said:
What controls lynx or stops them turning into a pride? Is it the wolf? That would put the kybosh on a good amount of livestock farming.

I find this ecosystem thing fascinating, but how many species do you need to bring in to balance the whole thing up?

The obvious next step after wolves is to reintroduce humans to control them……oh…….er………hang on a minute…..

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