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- South Pennines ol14
Molases
- Thread starter Wood field
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Speysider
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- Elgin moray
Don’t worry you’re not alone , had it 2 years ago driver was a new start , came out the IBC like a fountain poor chap was covered in molasses, did the same this year but was prepared so stopped filling till it settled down. Just wondering if it’s caused by the product having added minerals combined with sloshing about in lorry tanks
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- South Pennines ol14
Glad you said that !
Rep swears blind I am the only one it’s happened to
This batch was delivered around four weeks ago, it’s fine in the ibc but goes nuts when filling the small drums !
We did have it foam up out of the ibc once a year or two back , I was glad the driver witnessed it
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- Montgomeryshire
I've never seen that happen, ever.
What product is it?Could it have been fermenting in the ibc? Surely something not right with the product anyway...
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- South Pennines ol14
Begins with a brini ( easy sheep 18)I've never seen that happen, ever.
Could it have been fermenting in the ibc? Surely something not right with the product anyway...
We had a delivery around two years back and it foamed up in the ibc
This lot is a delivery to replace a previous one that foamed up!
It’s strange that it’s fine in the ibc but gassed up as it’s decanted in to the smaller drums. The blue drums are from the supplier and brand new, if I half fill them they will gas up enough to lift the lid , if allowed to stand over night then they settle and are fine
To be fair they replaced the liquid ( with this last batch) and sent a new ibc ( well s clean one)
Our own ibc’s are spotless having only been used for water .
It’s a real headache
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
That is very odd. I can't see how it can be anything other than a problem with the product though.
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- South Pennines ol14
Yes it’s a strange one, reps been good to be fair, but and I sort of see his point , he says they make thousands of litres and I am the only one having problemsThat is very odd. I can't see how it can be anything other than a problem with the product though.
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- America's dairyland
Dissolved gas that bubbles up when the pressure drops in the shallower container? if that's the case, it will go away once you get low in the IBC. Or you could bubble through the molases to stir and release the gas. Probably fermenting and CO2? You may be the only one putting it into smaller containers, everybody else using it bulk or filling half a bucket?
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
I’ve always decanted it into smaller drums in just the same manner as @Wood field does, but I’ve never seen that.
I used 500L of Downland/Rumenco stuff last month, in just the same way, after it had been sat in the ibc for 12 months. That’s the same ingredient mix, and even been known to come from the same plant in Crediton.
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- South Pennines ol14
We currently have three ibc’s 1has about 400 ltrs of easy lamber left from last year , it doesn’t froth up
1 of this years easy sheep 18 , this was problematic from day one and,
The third a few weeks old that was delivered to replace the problem stuff. Hope that makes sense!
The newest delivery was fine ( I decanted some to try it) but now having stood a few weeks is frothing up
Reps been good as I’ve said , we are now waiting on a response from the reps bosses
1 of this years easy sheep 18 , this was problematic from day one and,
The third a few weeks old that was delivered to replace the problem stuff. Hope that makes sense!
The newest delivery was fine ( I decanted some to try it) but now having stood a few weeks is frothing up
Reps been good as I’ve said , we are now waiting on a response from the reps bosses
I reckon there is alot of cheaper raw materials going in what we are sold to feed our animals at the moment but the list of ingredients on the delivery form is remaining the same because the analysis is the same . Delivery lorry driver said as much without actually saying it . Mate had a bulk load of dodgy feed that made stock scour like custard until they refused to eat it, firm collected it and dropped it at a farm five miles up the road ! Never believe they would have taken the risk .
- Location
- Devon
I've just had some cane delivered for the first time for many years and this thread has just reminded me why I stopped.
I had the exact same issue although I can't remember which product it was but do remember it being an absolute nightmare to decant and didn't buy it again. [until now].
I don't think any livestock suffered but it was a worrying to give them something that was like the fizziest Coke you've ever had.
I had the exact same issue although I can't remember which product it was but do remember it being an absolute nightmare to decant and didn't buy it again. [until now].
I don't think any livestock suffered but it was a worrying to give them something that was like the fizziest Coke you've ever had.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Pretty well the only ingredients in @Wood field ‘s liquid feed are molasses and urea, with some vits & mins added. I don’t think you could get cheaper versions.
As to concentrate feed, I would suggest that depends on the feed company. Some of the big nationals have always used least cost rationing programs, constantly substituting ingredients to shave pennies off. We used to get some bad loads when using Bibby’s feed many decades ago, and dairy cows soon tell you!
Lack of fixed formulations is one reason I don’t even get prices from those companies.
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- South Pennines ol14
I fed the original fizzy liquid out with no problem
As you say it’s just a flaming mess , only way round it at the minute is to half fill the drums and let it stand overnight.
I did a little unscientific test yesterday, 3 clean buckets, each slowly filled to around a 1/3rd , to see what happened, they still fizzed up
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- Durham, UK
Im really wary of this at the mo hence trying to use my own barley plus protien. Rather than buying a blend.
Yes i thought we farmers were sharp !
- Location
- Durham, UK
Back in the day we used to buy a blend for our pork pigs. We were sure they were always swapping ingridients or ratios of them but the firm denied it but with the pigs you could tell. In the end we started feeding our own ration.
Sailorsam
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- Merryland USA
anyone grow their own Sorghum?
- Location
- Devon
Thread hijack alert 
I have some urea molasses that is about 4 years old left in an ibc. Can anyone tell me if it's still safe to feed to cows or will it have been a breeding ground for nasties of some sort?
It's not fizzing (to keep some link to the op!), looks same as when it went in there, and I just wanted to use it up.
Obviously vitamins won't be up to much.
I could ask a rep but suspect they'll just want sell me more.
I have some urea molasses that is about 4 years old left in an ibc. Can anyone tell me if it's still safe to feed to cows or will it have been a breeding ground for nasties of some sort?
It's not fizzing (to keep some link to the op!), looks same as when it went in there, and I just wanted to use it up.
Obviously vitamins won't be up to much.
I could ask a rep but suspect they'll just want sell me more.
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