- Location
- Yorks
Couple of years back, inspector said if they passed too large a percentage of farmers, then RT would complain the inspection body wasn't doing their job correctly, then inspection body might lose their contract.
Red Tractor staff
- Thread starter Beefsmith
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It's not exactly hard not to fail if you do whats required, just a lot of the records are in necessary or legal stuff already covered
they will only worry when the gravy slows down
Timbo
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- Location
- Gods County
Hasn't it already ?
not enough
In a slightly different context thats sort of what happened here in a way, A fairly local chap was inspecting for quit a few years, he was very knowledgeable and practical chap, who did his best to help those he inspected pass without any non conformances ,yes ,actually help them with how to go about it /comply with each change correct paperwork etc he would've had a very low failure rate i should think.
Anyway next we heard was that he had resigned himself from the job after his manager had reprimanded him for 'getting to know the farmers which he inspected 'too well!
I will add He was an honest straightforward working man, well respected in his locality.
- Location
- Hereford
Yes ....... but I'm quite pleased that she felt that she could ! .......was probably hoping the OH was in the house and not meSo really she cold called you in a bid to get your hay customer contacts
The problem though is that RT have been caught out. The freedom of info emails that this forum obtained show you that. Certainly all the staff in the London office will of been fully aware of the corruptness of RT so its them that will ultimately answer. I don't see how the actual inspectors could be involved in any legal wrangling because as already pointed out they are not RT employees. Merely a contracting paid but a 3rd party who obtained the inspection contract.
The clowns in charge are still happily riding the gravy train but now with a sharp eye and ear for any sign of derailment at which point there hoping to jump clear just in time and then amble into a fresh NFU backed position.
Obviously once the train is derailed the rt management will dust there finest spin doctor off and wheel him out who will then announce it’s a great loss to there farmer members
Think they were oblivious until a few months ago
Now it's career suicide on your CV frankly
there is certainly £240,000 less gravy this year that's for sure
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Quite, it's a daft thread. Maybe the same could be asked of the hundred's of thousands of staff that are employed by supermarkets?
I don't know who does your Red Tractor assessment, but the ones we have had have certainly not bent any rules - in fact every "i" has to be dotted and every "t" crossed. Nit-picking in the extreme.
- Location
- Northumberland
I’ve certainly been failed for spurious reasons. Once at the very end of the inspection the inspector announced that she’d noticed a cow lacking one of its tags at the far end of the farm (she didn’t say anything about it at the time!) I wish I’d delayed her departure by dragging her back out there to check! There were no missing tags so I just had to swear that to the inspection body. I’m sure the inspector just did it to up her ‘fail’ rate.
- Location
- Yorks
That's dreadful. You were failed so the inspection body hit its failure target!
That SHOULD NOT NE HAPPENING.
They once failed us for not having an operators manual for the drier
bought second hand 25 years previously
and when sprayer testing first came out they tried to fail me for not having sprayer calibration records despite the fact the sprayer we had just bought hadn’t been used. On that occasion I refused to sign his paperwork and suggested he either delete it or leave.
on the most recent inspection I was asked for a combine service date. Told them I couldn’t give them one.
Why not?
well it took longer than a day to service
how many days?
well eerrr we started tinkering in January and finished the day we started so about 6 months!
so what date did you service it?
Just write every date down between jan and July I told them
they seem to get confused wen you tell the truth!
- Location
- East Yorkshire
I got a failure for not having RT number on my trailer for site delivery. I've never delivered directly but I was asked if it was possible that I could so I said yes. I soon learned I should've said no!
Which of the inspection companies was that, sounds like the sort of ballcocks for which CMI were infamous.They once failed us for not having an operators manual for the drier
bought second hand 25 years previously
and when sprayer testing first came out they tried to fail me for not having sprayer calibration records despite the fact the sprayer we had just bought hadn’t been used. On that occasion I refused to sign his paperwork and suggested he either delete it or leave.
on the most recent inspection I was asked for a combine service date. Told them I couldn’t give them one.
Why not?
well it took longer than a day to service
how many days?
well eerrr we started tinkering in January and finished the day we started so about 6 months!
so what date did you service it?
Just write every date down between jan and July I told them
they seem to get confused wen you tell the truth!
Had our inspection last week with whatever SAI call themselves now, with a courteous and pragmatic member of their team. Aside from populating a couple of templates, one for mass balance and one for something else, I didn't think the "new rules" particularly arduous. I had already downloaded the useful LkL services health and safety policy template, bish bash bosh job done for another year.
I have said before, be careful what replacement those of you hoping for complete abolition are wishing for.
First 2 events we’re Cmi the last one was SAI