Self build sheds

Rich_ard

Member
Is there really that much welding though? Weld a plate top and bottom and your basically good to go... it's more handling the beams safely would be my concern.

I'd still much rather support a local business though.
If a jobs worth doing it's worth doing right.
It all takes time. If not you end up sorting it on site.
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
I would get someone to draw it for you then you have drawings for every component, would save a lot of time and brain ache
Just had a structural engineer design quite an intricate bespoke shed for the farm, £2000.

It might sound expensive, but he's got an eye for detail and doesn't cut corners. The tendering process is also a lot easier when shed builders are quoting for a fixed specification, rather than them designing their own version with reduced steel weight and bracing to cheapen the deal.
 

Hilly

Member
No doubt. The big names are usually fine. The cattle sheds that are usually on offer would be hard to make for less than the offers that they used to have.
The offers alot of the time are bull sh!t its just fishing for contact , then its ask for post code and oh need bigger steel etc etc etc price rises , certain manufacturer has cancelled orders every day o the week , can that even be possible ?
 

upnortheast

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Northumberland
Is there really that much welding though? Weld a plate top and bottom and your basically good to go... i
If a jobs worth doing it's worth doing right.
Looking out of the office window at the steelwork in this shed - 100 ft wide
Seeing some serious amount of welding & cutting on the rafters.

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Ffermer Bach

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Livestock Farmer
As BRC says, get it drawn by someone who does sheds... then work from the plans. ;)
I am guessing they would design to include standard snow loads and wind loading (or lifting!) and take into account the geographic area etc you are in. I remember talking to a friend who used to build industrial buildings and I naively asked him why they were over specced compared to agricultural buildings, and he said it's because it doesn't matter if a shed falls down on a cow!
 
I am guessing they would design to include standard snow loads and wind loading (or lifting!) and take into account the geographic area etc you are in. I remember talking to a friend who used to build industrial buildings and I naively asked him why they were over specced compared to agricultural buildings, and he said it's because it doesn't matter if a shed falls down on a cow!

Correct, the main difference in the classifications is the factor of safety margin you have to apply in the design, which is based on the likelihood of human occupancy. Cattle shed, very unlikely so smallest safety factors.
 

upnortheast

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Northumberland
With the price of new sheds always climbing I wondered on building my own. Got all the facilities and good welders on hand. Is there a booklet or information available anywhere for steel sizes and pitch for various sheds? Might be going up to 100’ spans so not wanting to get the wrong size steel for rafters and legs. Or is it a case of an engineers drawing for it?
Get a price to have it fabricated by someone like Wareings in lancashire. https://www.wareingbuildings.co.uk/

Our local shed man used to fabricate his own, now apart from small jobs he uses Wareing

Then work out how much you could do it yourself for. ?
 

Rich_ard

Member
Depend on height as well , 100 could
Un balance a tele imo bare min two teles in unison imo but crane best
Put up a 98 feet one with a 14 m I think. Was a cattle shed so wouldn't be massively high. The new 18 m manitou are no better. Can't lift sh!t without peeping all day
 

pat kcotnit

Member
Location
Oot and aboot
The offers alot of the time are bull sh!t its just fishing for contact , then its ask for post code and oh need bigger steel etc etc etc price rises , certain manufacturer has cancelled orders every day o the week , can that even be possible ?
Tried the Lockerbie firm a couple of times for quotes based on their advertised kits. Usually 50% or more than the kit price due to our location (South Lanarkshire) for snow loading. Last new shed we got built, the manufacturer (not the one above) said the spec for our area is basically the same as for industrial use.
The kits that get advertised must be for areas like Stranraer where the snow loading risk would be negligible.
 

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