Headless chicken
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- West Wales
What sort of money is steel now? Could do with a couple more bays but prices have been prohibitive
Self build sheds
- Thread starter Pebd99
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About £1000/t dependant on what you are buying, how much you are buying and how often you are buying it….
We've made bits of sheds at home ourselves, but I work for a structural steel contractor now and would never go back to doing it ourselves.
Yes its nice to do, but unless you're fairly well set up to begin with, it's also a nightmare and very time consuming. Cutting and drilling beams at home could take days. Running it through a machine in work is minutes or hours. You pay for the efficiency - can you spend the time saved at something else?
As of 2014, all structural steel buildings are supposed to be CE marked which means using an approved fabricator. That said, I haven't seen of anywhere on the agricultural scale where someone has actually been asked for the cert.
Yes its nice to do, but unless you're fairly well set up to begin with, it's also a nightmare and very time consuming. Cutting and drilling beams at home could take days. Running it through a machine in work is minutes or hours. You pay for the efficiency - can you spend the time saved at something else?
As of 2014, all structural steel buildings are supposed to be CE marked which means using an approved fabricator. That said, I haven't seen of anywhere on the agricultural scale where someone has actually been asked for the cert.
if your making it for yourself it dosent need to be ce marked
Scoobyscotlad
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I agree to a certain extent, but with proper plans and a cutting list you can order all the steel precut, make templates for marking all the holes and your away with the mag drill.All rails, purlins and sheeting ordered to fit with pre punched holes.
A big advantage with doing it yourself is the actual cost of components will be a lot less than buying in a ready made shed, with building being not very tax friendly, 4% allowable per year atm(I think). , using on site labour which is 100% means that even if the overall saving is not much there are definite tax advantages.
I’m currently filling in between two sheds so having to make it up as I go, definitely not labour efficient when you have to work it all out without plans.
I guess also comes down to if you like doing fabrication work or not.
spark plug
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What do people do, do you get a despise set of plans drawn for your building, or can you buy plans off the shelf so to speak?
Dave6170
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- Location
- Watten, caithness
Did you galvanise it?
Yes
Rich_ard
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Depends what you want to spend. You could get a structural engineer to give you beam sizes. Bracing etc. Or if you want to have the whole thing with bolt connection detail you will need to spend more.
I would just copy another shed local or guess. You will be a few thousand, could just up grade the steel and spend that on steel. Unless you were supling it for someone no one will be too bothered. Not sure what your insurance would say if it collapse mind you.
Scoobyscotlad
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Brother does his own Autocad drawings.
Bad picture,it's taken once bolted together,if you lift each half chained in the right place it lifts at the right angle.
designanddetail
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Depends on the size of your new shed. If its small then yes maybe just get a size bigger than you think to be safe, but on a decent size building going a size bigger will add a lot more weight and cost you more than a set of calcs and drawings.
Simple set of fabrication drawings will get you all the plate drawings/data files for the suppliers to cut plates and holes and cut the steels and drill the columns. The price the stockholders charge to drill holes in columns can be very cheap if you get them on the right day. Once delivered its s big lego set with instructions that needs welding.
Rich_ard
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You probay right. If you can find a sensible engineer. Hopefully you are!
Structural engineers since 2010 over engineer sheds though. Its not about designing the shed its all about covering their backs incase there is heavy snow again and sheds colapse. But not all sheds did colapse so they were OK before just some did! I can over spec steel for a shed. Don't need to know about calculations to do that.
Just my experience of them!
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