3 For 2 Trailer Deal

[homefarm]

The western trailers at 16 tonne are approx 18 and 21 cu metres depending on root or gp, so will hold just under 14 or 16 tonnes of average bushel wheat.
5.5 tonnes unladen +15.5 wheat = 21 tonne.

We have some Armstrong & Holmes 12 tonne 16 cu mtrs and are just legal full of wheat.
More by accident than choice as we have a height restriction when tipping. These were the most tonnes for the least height.

I am not saying you will be the only one but most of the time you will be running 3 tonne overweight. Safer than you are now probably but unfortunately not lawful.

 

[Chae1]

Grain trailers again? We look at this every year and always hire. Works for us.

How much is it to hire one for 6 weeks?

 

[Nearly]

You lot are making it far too complicated, take the 4 trailers and just weld one body onto the top of another body, making two 16 ton trailers, with loads of spares for running gear ?

 

[Andrew]

How much is it to hire one for 6 weeks?

£3000 + delivery round here. Very expensive way of doing it if it’s a regular occurrence.

 

[Chae1]

£3000 + delivery round here. Very expensive way of doing it if it’s a regular occurrence.

So 6 years and decent trailer paid.

No brainer.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

what should I of paid for this at auction 8T

 

[Chae1]

5-6k

 

[Northeastfarmer]

5-6k

You’ve just made my year

 

[Andrew]

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what should I of paid for this at auction 8T

£3-4k? https://www.farmmachinerylocator.co.uk/listings/farm-machinery/for-sale/164290469/triffitt-dt11

 

[homefarm]

Having just been stopped for 3.3 tonnes on a 3.0 tonne gross truck we did think it was 3.5 so
13% overweight according to them.
Having been there 3 tonne over on 18 would be considered very serious. Perhaps ok if a one off but could you risk getting caught a second time.

These are the regs

3.3 Excess weight offences
When a fixed penalty notice or conditional offer is issued for an excess weight offence, the examiner will also prevent the vehicle going any further.

This is to:

• stop an overweight vehicle being used on the road
• preserve road safety

A fixed penalty is the preferred option for dealing with excess weight offences unless:

• the offence is too serious
• the maximum number of penalty notices would be exceeded

The table below shows the current graduated penalty levels for excess weight matters.

Severity	Endorsable	Fixed penalty amount
Less than 10%	No	£100
10% up to but not including 15%	No	£200
15% and over	No	£300

A £100 penalty will be given for a 0% to 9.99% overload, but DVSA examiners will allow a 5% leeway before issuing a fixed penalty or prohibition, unless the relevant weight has been exceeded by 1 tonne or more.

Normally, a fixed penalty would be inappropriate for serious cases of overloading - for example when the vehicle is overloaded by 30% and over, or the excess weight is 5 tonnes - so a court summons would be issued instead.

If the excess weight and the way the load is carried is having a significant effect on road safety - for example, serious instability or loss of control, these other offences will mean a court summons, with the excess weight being part of the offence/s.

 

[Chae1]

You’ve just made my year

As long as i don't make your whole week

 

[Spud]

You’ve just made my year

Sorry to disappoint, I'd say £2-2500

 

[Northeastfarmer]

£3-4k? https://www.farmmachinerylocator.co.uk/listings/farm-machinery/for-sale/164290469/triffitt-dt11

That’s 11T....mines 8T

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Sorry to disappoint, I'd say £2-2500

You haven’t disappointed...

 

[Chae1]

You haven’t disappointed...

https://ellismachinery.co.uk/machinery/trailers/marshall-8t-trailer-11012168

 

[Andrew]

That’s 11T....mines 8T

Yeah, so I’d have said yours was less, but looks better condition.

 

[MrNoo]

Had 3x 9t trailers here, home made, very little in the way of brakes and very old, they worked well but I decided to just get 2x 14t Smyth trailers. What a revelation, I can get 2x full to the brim combine tank loads plus a bit in each trailer. I then stop combining and go and empty the trailers then crack on again. Spend a lot less time on the road running back to store.
I paid £10.5k for each trailer brand new (circa 6yrs ago) with floatations, air over oil, high speed commercial axles, LED's and sprung drawbar, been very happy indeed with them, certainly built to last and paint is first class.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Yeah, so I’d have said yours was less, but looks better condition.

Paid £1700....didn’t even want it but wasn’t letting it go for that

 

[Phil P]

Not true. The ‘16 ton’ on bulk trailer advertising normally refers to the design load capacity, the unladen weight is added to this to make the max vehicle weight.
The 16t also has no real bearing on skip size either - a 16t trailer may be designed to carry 16t of stone, or 16t of feathers with very different bin sizes.



If you exceed the weight, if it’s not much you will be OK as there is a factor of safety built into the design. If you regularly exceed the weight you will probably break something. There are also legal implications depending on the situation.

Every days a school day ?

 

[solo]

I went from two 10t griffiths to two Bailey 15t and have not regretted the change. 15t Bailey body is the same as the 14t but 3” taller whereas the 16t is 2’ longer than a 14t. The 15t benefits from the 16t running gear which is bigger than 14t. My main reason for change was the braking capability of commercial axles is far superior to the ag spec griffiths. Something worth considering, with your father not getting younger on modern day roads. Your tractor brakes should last longer too. 6800 and 6155r are my grain cart tractors. 15t Bailey easily holds 17t wheat and weighs 5t empty so would be about 4t over the legal road limit FYI. I have a rear drawbar on one trailer so an extra, shorter trailer can be towed to away ground. Two 15t are over the legal length when paired together.