Bagged nut under weight

[Barleycorn]

Our farming club arranged a visit to some grain silos at Southampton docks a few years back. Apparently, they weighed in and out on different weighbridges, both of which were continually monitored to have the 5% in their favour. That's a fair few tons of wheat over a day.

 

[Al R]

Our farming club arranged a visit to some grain silos at Southampton docks a few years back. Apparently, they weighed in and out on different weighbridges, both of which were continually monitored to have the 5% in their favour. That's a fair few tons of wheat over a day.

Probably to cover the weevil insecticide applications from being on the boats

 

[Netherfield]

increases plastic use tho that's the trouble as well.rats get at them bags as well

Could always go back to paper or hessian sacks though.

 

[Al R]

Could always go back to paper or hessian sacks though.

No thanks! I remember bagging spuds in paper bags and a shower of rain passed rebag quite a few tonne as bags were spitting

 

[Bury the Trash]

Could always go back to paper or hessian sacks though.

hessian maybe , from an environmentally friendly pov.
... ........plus i could do with a bag to fold over for on our Major seat

 

[johnspeehs]

That’s ok if you are really getting 25kgs! Equally I would argue that at (when I left the U.K.) a £40 premium for buying bags would not take long to set your self up with a decent system for bagging and weighing bulk feed.

Yes it wouldn;t be for everyone but he was buying enough that he had it at little more than bulk price and coming from a good firm,. Now a days a lot mills don't want to know about 25kg bags.

 

[Sid]

And which group needs exactly 25, 50, 75 or 100kg a day? I just have a range of old buckets in different sizes and a set of luggage scales to work out what fits in what bucket.
Half an hour on a weekend evening gets the food bagged for the week - one small (5kg), one tubby (8kg) and one yellow (12kg) or whatever is needed to make a batch. Can’t think of any group that has an exact multiple of 25kg so I’d be over or under feeding if I used whole bags anyway.

We use bagged feed because it is ,hopefully, weighed correctly.

In your scenario, the pen on 12kg would get a bag split over 2 feeds, the 8kg over 3 feeds.
We bunch youngstock to fit the feed rate.
So a bunch of 19 on 2kg a head would get 3 bags over 2 days. If 3 kgs extra today then they would be 3 kgs less tomorrow as the other "half" is used.

How long does it take to bucket out of a tote bag and correctly dispense?

 

[Highland Mule]

How long does it take to bucket out of a tote bag and correctly dispense?

It’s done piecemeal on a daily basis so difficult to tell, often by Jnr once I’ve set up the quantities. At a guess I’d say 30s per bag I fill, a bit more for him, and a bit less for half bags. Maybe 1s/kg, so 1,000s (16minutes) per tonne?. Let’s double that to get £40/half hour or £80/hour and still have a reasonable wage for my hassle.

Edit - I note you’re working on 24kg bags, not 25kg that is the norm. Are you happy to be giving ~5% extra out? It doesn’t make any real difference I’m sure, and the maths is easier.

 

[Heatgereater]

When I first bought electronic sheep scale had a pallet load of 25kg bags of feed so thought I would check. everyone was 24.6kg which I assume is minimum tolerance they can get away with legally

 

[Sid]

It’s done piecemeal on a daily basis so difficult to tell, often by Jnr once I’ve set up the quantities. At a guess I’d say 30s per bag I fill, a bit more for him, and a bit less for half bags. Maybe 1s/kg, so 1,000s (16minutes) per tonne?. Let’s double that to get £40/half hour or £80/hour and still have a reasonable wage for my hassle.

Edit - I note you’re working on 24kg bags, not 25kg that is the norm. Are you happy to be giving ~5% extra out? It doesn’t make any real difference I’m sure, and the maths is easier.

I would always sooner over feed a little than under feed.

In 30 mins you can accurately weigh out a ton of feed to nearest kg
Fair play to you.

When I first bought electronic sheep scale had a pallet load of 25kg bags of feed so thought I would check. everyone was 24.6kg which I assume is minimum tolerance they can get away with legally

Do all your lambs that go through the scales weigh the same at market

 

[Heatgereater]

No but weigh them all before going dead to check killing out percentages mainly to check they are our lambs still can’t prove if they are knocking some off same as market unless weigh crates in the back of the truck

 

[Highland Mule]

I would always sooner over feed a little than under feed.

In 30 mins you can accurately weigh out a ton of feed to nearest kg
Fair play to you.

Agreed on over feeding.

And no, not accurate to nearest kg, but probably as close as many factories. I have a range of bucket sizes and use those to mix and match. And the under/over weighing is mine to keep, not the factory profit.

 

[flashsheep]

Curiously, I used to buy a layers feed to our specification. Bibby's made in 3 tonne batches, so I'd to order in multiples of that so 3,6,9,12 tonnes or so

Order of say six tonnes would sometimes be 5.7 tonnes when delivered, could never get a straight answer where the other 300 kgs had gone to, this spec was not made for anyone else so no excuse there. They would argue that you're only paying for the weight on the ticket, my argument was, what is missing from the two batches, because it makes the whole lot out of balance protein wise.

The bulk is tonnage is measured wet when mixing so if you order 20 ton it will lose some weight when it drys out but with bulk you only pay for the weight the wagon blows out. Bagged should be weighed dry into the bags at the bag weight

 

[gatepost]

Had the same with some soya, was only when using the bags to calibrate a new electronic scale that we realised, used wts and min bags , supplier said nothing to do with them as they had bought it in like that in good faith?

 

[Netherfield]

The bulk is tonnage is measured wet when mixing so if you order 20 ton it will lose some weight when it drys out but with bulk you only pay for the weight the wagon blows out. Bagged should be weighed dry into the bags at the bag weight

Nothing in a layers feed can be described as 'wet' that I know of, many times made within an hour of being weighed on to the truck.

 

[Bury the Trash]

The bulk is tonnage is measured wet when mixing so if you order 20 ton it will lose some weight when it drys out but with bulk you only pay for the weight the wagon blows out.

weighbridge.

As I've written before a weighbridge is used either preloaded or for bulk on the lorry at the point of preparation for leaving the mill.
So if the lorry has 4 sections with different types on , maybe even for different customers on the delivery , then the lorry is weighed 4 times .
You as the customer will then get a standard weighbridge ticket with the above info on it handed to you at delivery by the lorry driver.
This is what happens in real life.

It really is a s simple as that.

If anyones worried about any of this then ask or visit a mill , where they will be happy im sure to explain.

 

[2wheels]

we used to pick up the ewe rolls from the mill in bulk.weighed on the way in and again on the way out. trailer parked in shed next to the sheep. it was left tipped up a bit with a cover on. dispense through the small hatch into buckets on a 25kg salter scale. we only had to walk 25-30mtrs at the most with the buckets so were able to strictly ration different batches/numbers of ewes.