Beef fattening units

[mo!]

How many will armitage ,at oswaldkirk ,have on at any one time , 2/3000?

Those numbers were right, but there has been a change of management recently from what I've heard. Family fall out...

 

[mo!]

Doug Dear will have done the numbers, he's always pushing the boundaries but he does seem to swap and change systems fairly often.

 

[unlacedgecko]

I'd hazard a guess that BSE knackered the job and on agents advice they chopped the livestock side and went full throttle arable. Likely no infrastructure left or livestock expertise. Shame as most are realising that mixed farming is the future not the past.

Poly wire isn't expensive. Plenty of rednecks looking for secure land access.

If these landowners scale back their greed mixed farming has a highly profitable future.

 

[beardface]

Poly wire isn't expensive. Plenty of rednecks looking for secure land access.

If these landowners scale back their greed mixed farming has a highly profitable future.

Trouble is some want a cap full for the grazing, plus the benefits of livestock in the rotation.

 

[Northern territory]

Is it only suckler men sending their stores to be finished or do people actually buy the stores and let somebody else do all the work and make all the feed.

 

[Northern territory]

Trouble is some want a cap full for the grazing, plus the benefits of livestock in the rotation.

Very little security as well when trying to build a business

 

[unlacedgecko]

Trouble is some want a cap full for the grazing, plus the benefits of livestock in the rotation.

Yes. That's why I said the landowners will have to scale back their greed.

I've lost count of the number of "joint ventures" are a sham arrangement to allow a redneck the privilege of taking all the risk and doing all the work so the landowner can retain active farmer status.

 

[beardface]

Very little security as well when trying to build a business

Biggest issue for us graziers I'd say.

 

[beardface]

Yes. That's why I said the landowners will have to scale back their greed.

I've lost count of the number of "joint ventures" are a sham arrangement to all a redneck the privilege of taking all the risk and doing all the work so the landowner can retain active farmer status.

Yep as a grazier you carry all the risk with no security. I'm afraid the issue for glaziers going forwards is the government will pay the greedy buggers to do nothing with it at all. Or they can let it for even more money as renewable or carbon credit land.

 

[Northern territory]

Yep as a grazier you carry all the risk with no security. I'm afraid the issue for glaziers going forwards is the government will pay the greedy buggers to do nothing with it at all. Or they can let it for even more money as renewable or carbon credit land.

Something is certainly wrong. All the good sized estate farms either get taken back in hand or devided up for existing tenants.

 

[d williams]

Dunno about sale. But there was 1 in East Anglia offered for a 5 year FBT a few months ago. Total capacity was 1500hd I think.

This would have been several years ago

 

[Northern territory]

This would have been several years ago

There was a big one on A1 near Newark. Last time I went past all cattle had gone and sheds full of straw

 

[kps]

This would have been several years ago

Rackham was at Thetford I went on an NBA walk years ago very impressive they had a lot of corral's and feed veg waste.

 

[kps]

There was a big one on A1 near Newark. Last time I went past all cattle had gone and sheds full of straw

Burnett's they finished couldn't make it pay allegedly the talk was they'd turn there sheds into industrial due to there location.

 

[Northern territory]

Burnett's they finished couldn't make it pay allegedly the talk was they'd turn there sheds into industrial due to there location.

Would make sense where it is.

 

[ollie989898]

Yes. That's why I said the landowners will have to scale back their greed.

I've lost count of the number of "joint ventures" are a sham arrangement to allow a redneck the privilege of taking all the risk and doing all the work so the landowner can retain active farmer status.

Tax rules need to change. Just do away with inheritance tax.

 

[casper74]

Is it only suckler men sending their stores to be finished or do people actually buy the stores and let somebody else do all the work and make all the feed.

I know of 1 man who buys stores in Northern marts and sends them Doug Dear's then I presume his end up at Abp.

 

[Werzle]

Makes you think why it isn't a bit more common- you have those larger farms in the East where they have access to land to spread manure, tonnes of straw they would otherwise chop up, grain and veg or spuds coming out of their ears, why not just import some cattle and feed them all winter to keep their teams of guys ticking over?

Probably more money in feeding all that waste into an AD plant and less hassle i would guess, and they still get the digestate for the crops

 

[Northern territory]

I know of 1 man who buys stores in Northern marts and sends them Doug Dear's then I presume his end up at Abp.

Would you consider it?

 

[Anymulewilldo]

I know of 1 man who buys stores in Northern marts and sends them Doug Dear's then I presume his end up at Abp.

I suppose when you think about it, it’s only the same maths with store lambs? As in If I went up north, bought lambs. Put them straight on a decker and sent them too the likes of @unlacedgecko or @Mc115reed too be shepherded and fed then I send a wagon too get them when finished. But with much bigger numbers involved?