Cattle stranded on ship in Spain must be destroyed, say vets

[Cowabunga]

You can imagine what the real reason was for the delays. They knew that if they waited until we sent 3 lorries at once, they would have a better chance of getting the “folding” paperwork they really wanted!

So you reckon corruption and the expectation of pay-offs is rife in Spain and possibly Turkey? Mafia perhaps?

 

[beardface]

Just helps to show that live export is a minor issue in terms of UK production. There's a hell of a lot more live export on the continent. Thousands of weaners pigs face over 9 hour journeys into Germany from surrounding countries for instance. And a lot of cattle go out of Spain to the middle east including dairy calves. Yet the EU have the gaul to assume we're the ones that will lower production standards......

 

[Ribble]

Just helps to show that live export is a minor issue in terms of UK production. There's a hell of a lot more live export on the continent. Thousands of weaners pigs face over 9 hour journeys into Germany from surrounding countries for instance. And a lot of cattle go out of Spain to the middle east including dairy calves. Yet the EU have the gaul to assume we're the ones that will lower production standards......

Personally I'd like to see the UK government raise standards in all kinds of industries then exclude imports for not meeting our standards. Then start hectoring the EU for being backward.

 

[unlacedgecko]

Difference between a live export ship and a finishing shed?

 

[Two Tone]

So you reckon corruption and the expectation of pay-offs is rife in Spain and possibly Turkey? Mafia perhaps?

 

[Tim W]

Difference between a live export ship and a finishing shed?

Finishing shed is in a fixed location and we are in control of standards/welfare
Export ship is travelling to a jurisdiction outside our control of welfare.

 

[roscoe erf]

Difference between a live export ship and a finishing shed?

ones floating in water the other oh hang on

 

[roscoe erf]

Straight in the 'brook' !

They have a massive slurry pit within yards distance.

thats the trouble

 

[curlietailz]

Wonder where all the dead ones go ??

 

[glasshouse]

Send them up to scotland,
I have spare grass

 

[Muck Spreader]

I notice the company who are doing the shipping, Khalifeh Livestock Trading based in Lebanon, regularly ship cattle into Mediterranean countries all the way from Brazil.

 

[Rossymons]

Reading the back story to all of this shows that our ban on live export across the channel is small beer and this entire episode has been farcial and a shocking way to treat animals.

 

[Cowabunga]

thats the trouble

It's hardly a problem out in the ocean.

 

[Farmer Fin]

I have no issue with cattle being moved like this. As someone pointed out the conditions appear no different to a slatted unit. The issue appears to be what happens when the health status of the animals changes in transit.
Was there not a issue a few years with uk calves going to ROI for rearing then being sold on as bull beef via boat. I think there was a Panorama programme about it?

 

[Cowabunga]

Wonder where all the dead ones go ??

Fish food. They cut them up and throw them overboard.

 

[Rossymons]

Fish food. They cut them up and throw them overboard.

Does the Ocean have a holding number?

 

[Muck Spreader]

Does the Ocean have a holding number?

Apparently Yes, as a farmer in your neighbouring county proved a few years ago.

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[Doc]

Live Export | The Livestock Collective

Let's find out more about the livestock export journey from Australian farms to international destination countries.

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It’s a big industry elsewhere in the world, shipping cattle. I would be reluctant to condemn it on the basis of one incident. A lot of investment and attention to conditions has occurred (rightly) recently. A mate of mine has been involved shipping from WA to Indonesia and reports animal welfare was very good on the boats he was on. The criticism has been conditions at destination. This too is changing and the fattening units in Asia are employing Australian stockmen and building modern units for housing and handling which would shame many in the U.K.

 

[The Seeker]

Fur king disgraceful

 

[Rossymons]

Apparently Yes, as a farmer in your neighbouring county proved a few years ago.

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Ahh, he's from Devon. They're all dodgy on the dark side of the Tamar!