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[Al R]

Ask, and ye shall find.......

British Blue Animal Details GREENFIELD NIGHT RIDER

You could click on the breeders name if you wanted to know where he lived.

I’d take that down personally as it shows your address and phone number G...... C.....

 

[Ribble]

Sorry to hijack thread, but is there one of those links for limousine cattle?

Limousin Animal Enquiry

abri.une limousin - Google Search

There u go, top link is Limousin enquiry page. Second is Google, change the search term for other breeds

 

[Hilly]

Well done for doing the right thing we brought a young lim bull once, he never got the chance to meet the cows after he flatened my husband luckily husband was fine but he was straight into the market and they were told he was a non breeder so no other unsuspecting purchaser could have the same misfortune.

Only to be expected from a limy they are arse holes , beyond me why anyone bothers with them.

 

[yellowbelly]

Problem is......vendor has completely washed his hands of the bull, has refused to take him back (which he would if he knew he was OK, but speaking to him on the phone, I'm of the opinion he knew the bull had issues.)

That really is a bad state of affairs.
Any decent vendor should offer some sort of recompense - replacement bull, refund, etc. He'll be wondering why nobody wants one of his bulls next year.

You say it was an on line sale, so you'd not actually seen him in the flesh??

I only ask 'cos our some of our sheep society members are hell bent on having a virtual breed sale. I know we're in strange times at the moment but I don't think buying stock from computer pictures is really the way to go.

 

[Nithsdale]

I’d take that down personally as it shows your address and phone number G...... C.....

You weren't supposed to look at that bit

 

[Cowslip]

We have 3 lims 1 saler and I breed south devons never been a problem had many others in the past too. One foot wrong with temperament and they are gone. Not worth the risk.

 

[Werzle]

Your not giving the bull or the vendor a chance what harm would it do to try him with some company for a week or so ?

I would of tried a few things before writing off 3k+

 

[neilo]

You weren't supposed to look at that bit

That was the first bit I clicked on, being a nosey bugger.? I’m sure I remember the prefix from a BB bull we used in a previous life too.?

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Only to be expected from a limy they are arse holes , beyond me why anyone bothers with them.

I have two Limousin stock bulls from a well known Scottish breeder and both are as quiet as lambs...I’ve never had a nasty limmy bull yet

 

[Treemover]

Questions have to be asked about sales such as this from registered/purebred breeders. Surely there should be some sort of enquiry or procedure for sales exactly like this?

 

[Hampton]

I have two Limousin stock bulls from a well known Scottish breeder and both are as quiet as lambs...I’ve never had a nasty limmy bull yet

Bruce?
I’d love a bull off him.
I’ve got a very good local lim breeder and his bulls are always quiet as mice. If they weren’t I wouldn’t buy them.

 

[Hampton]

Here is one of my bulls.
Second photo is of him getting his feet trimmed. Gave him a bit of grub to take his mind off it

 

[johnspeehs]

I think that is the big draw back of the online sales as you cant get up close to bulls to get a feel for the temperament and to see how they behave in a market situation, usually if there are temperament issues it will show up away from home assuming he hasn't had a wee touch of sedative . If I had sold him I would certainly have tried to come to some agreement with the buyer, even if he was quiet as a lamb at home, if he behaves badly he is of no use to anyone. I see people suggesting to try him with cows but I cant see how he could ever be trusted, even if he does mellow you never would know the day you forget yourself and he takes his chance.

 

[Purli R]

To be fair to the vendor he his leading the bull around the field in the sales video . Work might very well of calmed him imo . Had you tried giving him so company or had you just shut him on his own since buying him?

Well we did wonder how he managed to do that,some on here saying give it work etc,but I"m sorry we"ve seen what he"s really like & its not nice,someone would have to live n work with it, or die with it.No need for a dead hero here,we"ve bred n reared hundreds of Bulls here for over 30 years,surprisingly we do know what we are doing.You could tell it wasn"t right by the look in its eyes........& if you have to ask what that means..........

 

[neilo]

Well we did wonder how he managed to do that,some on here saying give it work etc,but I"m sorry we"ve seen what he"s really like & its not nice,someone would have to live n work with it, or die with it.No need for a dead hero here,we"ve bred n reared hundreds of Bulls here for over 30 years,surprisingly we do know what we are doing.You could tell it wasn"t right by the look in its eyes........& if you have to ask what that means..........

Painful as it is, you did the right thing. You’re a long time dead, and I would think the regret if someone else was the victim would last every bit as long.

Fair play to you for making the right decision, just a shame the breeder seemingly didn’t have the steel to do so (& I do appreciate we only have on3 side of the story here).

 

[Purli R]

What did the auctioneers say?

H&H did come to look after various calls to them & breeder, 2 of em got him behind 2 gates in his box & after 3/4 of hour got halter on using a shepherds crook to get it under his chin & over his lugs cos it wouldn"t let them reach over its head,they spoke with vendor who was havin none of it,point blank refused it could have any problem,didn"t want to hear anymore about it etc.So when it comes to it the auctioneers are sort of relying on goodwill really.

 

[@dlm]

As @Purli R stated earlier, he could have tried a bit of work for bull etc etc, then he has 10 cows in calf to bull and next generation continues. He also said he knew was wrong, could see it in eyes. I have bought bulls off him, only a few over 20 years, he knows cattle as well as anyone so credit to him for taking a hit and culling a bad gene. Thought i had a problem with one of his bulls as i bought it very young, didnt think it would serve cows as tried it on a handful when a youngster, he offered to take back, or had someone else that wanted it so resell it, he matured and after few more months performed. But honourable and was prepared to sort problem that as it turned out didnt exist. Shame man he bought off wasnt half as good as him. In fact shame most werent half as good a man and stockman as he is!!!

 

[Northeastfarmer]

You should of just chucked him in with some cows...once he’s shagged out and lost his testosterone he wouldn’t of been arsed about fighting

 

[Tim G]

You should of just chucked him in with some cows...once he’s shagged out and lost his testosterone he wouldn’t of been arsed about fighting

Would you have taken that chance? Not sure I would have. @Purli R has done the right thing, as painful financially as it maybe.

 

[Andrew]

Well we did wonder how he managed to do that,some on here saying give it work etc,but I"m sorry we"ve seen what he"s really like & its not nice,someone would have to live n work with it, or die with it.No need for a dead hero here,we"ve bred n reared hundreds of Bulls here for over 30 years,surprisingly we do know what we are doing.You could tell it wasn"t right by the look in its eyes........& if you have to ask what that means..........

Personally I think you have done the right thing, he may have calmed down but you’d never fully trust him again, any other situation may have sent him nuts. Yea it’s a £4k loss but better than a broken arm or worse, and the worry of that happening for the next 5 years. We had to do a very similar thing with a Lim bull out of Anglesey a few years back, vendor didn’t care.