Covid and milking

[Dairyfarmerswife]

We had a similar situation where an employee had to self isolate, during mating and he was responsible for heat detection amongst other things. There was no slack in the system for anyone else to replace him. He was taken off all other duties and only came in to sort bulling cows and watch for bulling. We all kept our distance and he did not use any vehicles or other facilities during this time. This seemed the most sensible compromise when we already had someone off long term sick (non covid) so we were under pressure for skilled staff. Thankfully he subsequently tested negative.
I'm not sure if calf rearing falls in the same category in terms of being able to isolate from everyone else but I think you have to take all the precautions you can, masks, gloves, disinfectant etc and hope for a negative test.

 

[Johnnyboxer]

They can isolate. The rest of us can become immune and the risk will decrease for everyone.

Immunity is not guaranteed
You can get CV19 multiple times

 

[Johnnyboxer]

As I have already said.... There is nothing stopping you, or any of your loved ones from isolating until the rest of us have got on with our lives for long enough to reduce the risk of the virus for everyone.

You might get long Covid and die of heart disease after catching CV19
You are not an exception from dying

 

[Johnnyboxer]

Why do you believe that?

Too many variables

 

[Jackov Altraids]

I'm not afraid of getting covid19, but I would consider that I had failed to follow the guidelines if I did. I would then feel acutely responsible for anyone that subsequently became ill.
Forget about herd immunity and accept communal responsibility.
If everyone had strictly followed the guidance since lockdown, there wouldn't be a second wave.
Don't blame the rule makers, the problems lie with rule breakers.

 

[Johnnyboxer]

I'm not afraid of getting covid19, but I would consider that I had failed to follow the guidelines if I did. I would then feel acutely responsible for anyone that subsequently became ill.
Forget about herd immunity and accept communal responsibility.
If everyone had strictly followed the guidance since lockdown, there wouldn't be a second wave.
Don't blame the rule makers, the problems lie with rule breakers.

That is a salutary post

100% correct

We have complied and tried to mitigate the risk to ourselves and others in the community

 

[gone up the hill]

I'm not afraid of getting covid19, but I would consider that I had failed to follow the guidelines if I did. I would then feel acutely responsible for anyone that subsequently became ill.
Forget about herd immunity and accept communal responsibility.
If everyone had strictly followed the guidance since lockdown, there wouldn't be a second wave.
Don't blame the rule makers, the problems lie with rule breakers.

Utter rubbish!

Of course there would have been another outbreak of the virus, you cannot lock people in their homes for every and a day and when they come back out again the virus will still be there waiting!

You cannot control a virus!

And dont forget that 1 in 4 new cases of the virus happen AFTER people go into hospital, and of all new infections over HALF over the last two weeks have been at uni's/ schools etc....

At risk/ elderly people need to take responsibilty for their own welfare and isolate and the rest of us need to crack on and get back to normal life!

Wales only has an average of 2 deaths a day from/ with the virus in the last 7 days!

 

[Johnnyboxer]

Wales only has an average of 2 deaths a day from/ with the virus in the last 7 days!

Deaths over the whole of UK, have gone up 33% in the last 7 days
Europe is the same

 

[Headless chicken]

What makes her so special

nothing but a key member of staff. We could drag dad in which would reduce the pressure but he wouldn’t be comfortable or able to milk or feed solo so we’d risk more spread. There is a limited amount of hours in a day in which animals need to be fed and cared for. My job is to make sure this is achievable whilst making sure I protect as many members of staff and family as possible.
How would you cope if key workers on your farm tested positive?

 

[dinderleat]

nothing but a key member of staff. We could drag dad in which would reduce the pressure but he wouldn’t be comfortable or able to milk or feed solo so we’d risk more spread. There is a limited amount of hours in a day in which animals need to be fed and cared for. My job is to make sure this is achievable whilst making sure I protect as many members of staff and family as possible.
How would you cope if key workers on your farm tested positive?

Sounds like your milking 1k cows.
Basically if she tests positive your worker shouldn’t be in work by law. It’s not law That you have to be self isolating if your waiting for test results.

 

[gone up the hill]

Deaths over the whole of UK, have gone up 33% in the last 7 days
Europe is the same

UK Deaths have gone up as they now include flu deaths in the virus tally they announce daily!

Average of 1600 deaths a day in the country yet only 100/150 a day are connected with the virus/Flu and these seem to be the only ones that matter, deaths from heart attacks/ cancer etc are now going off the charts due to lack of medical treatment the last 7 months yet these deaths doesn't seem to matter!

in 2018 there was over 50,000 deaths from flu in the UK alone!

 

[Milkcow365]

nothing but a key member of staff. We could drag dad in which would reduce the pressure but he wouldn’t be comfortable or able to milk or feed solo so we’d risk more spread. There is a limited amount of hours in a day in which animals need to be fed and cared for. My job is to make sure this is achievable whilst making sure I protect as many members of staff and family as possible.
How would you cope if key workers on your farm tested positive?

One tested positive last week, buck stops with me at end of day, just a busy fool for a couple of weeks, get some help in to do any jobs they can, but the last thing I want is said person coming to work for the sake of there own health and the rest can manage with 1 down but if we all get it at same time jobs ducked

 

[roscoe erf]

We had a similar situation where an employee had to self isolate, during mating

Bit of a anchor was he

 

[Rossymons]

nothing but a key member of staff. We could drag dad in which would reduce the pressure but he wouldn’t be comfortable or able to milk or feed solo so we’d risk more spread. There is a limited amount of hours in a day in which animals need to be fed and cared for. My job is to make sure this is achievable whilst making sure I protect as many members of staff and family as possible.
How would you cope if key workers on your farm tested positive?

An ex herdsman I know of had to self isolate back in March. Basically what happened was everyone did the normal jobs and he would come in to check the dump group, calving shed and a couple other bits whilst everyone else had disappeared for an hours breakfast. They have 600 odd cows and it worked fine.

 

[Jackov Altraids]

Utter rubbish!

Of course there would have been another outbreak of the virus, you cannot lock people in their homes for every and a day and when they come back out again the virus will still be there waiting!

You cannot control a virus!

And dont forget that 1 in 4 new cases of the virus happen AFTER people go into hospital, and of all new infections over HALF over the last two weeks have been at uni's/ schools etc....

At risk/ elderly people need to take responsibilty for their own welfare and isolate and the rest of us need to crack on and get back to normal life!

Wales only has an average of 2 deaths a day from/ with the virus in the last 7 days!

I would be disappointed with this comment but coming from the one person who has continuously spouted the most selfish incoherent nonsense on the subject of covid19, I'll take it as a compliment.

 

[Adeptandy]

They can isolate. The rest of us can become immune and the risk will decrease for everyone.

That's the problem though, you can get it again

 

[gone up the hill]

I would be disappointed with this comment but coming from the one person who has continuously spouted the most selfish incoherent nonsense on the subject of covid19, I'll take it as a compliment.

I assume you are talking about yourself jackov altraids in the above post!

 

[gone up the hill]

That's the problem though, you can get it again

Very few cases of people getting the virus twice and given the test can pick up infection that is months old its quite possible it was the original infection found at both tests.

 

[Adeptandy]

Very few cases of people getting the virus twice and given the test can pick up infection that is months old its quite possible it was the original infection found at both tests.

2 separate tests, 2 different strains was the information I was given.

 

[Dead Rabbits]

I don’t know what your laws are or how much you are concerned with them. I would just have your employee stay away from everyone and have no contact. I don’t see why they couldn’t work if they wanted to. A lot of people knock it quick.

Our farm is perfectly suited to keeping a good distance from each other but maybe yours isn’t. I have yet to meet anyone local who is worried about COVID-19. Everyone just does as they want here locally. So definitely different circumstances to you.