Crimping grain

Discussion in 'Livestock & Forage' started by gone up the hill, Jul 27, 2013.

  1. silverfox

    silverfox Member

    I would be interested in finding local customers who wanted crimped grain. It would help with storage space and spread my workload.
    Nearly did a deal for some barley this year but the chap found some a bit closer.
     
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  2. Forage Trader

    Forage Trader Member

    Location:
    Ceredigion
    Phone your local machinery ring , we had no trouble selling ours could have shifted triple the amount , good man to shift it is a crimping contractor as he has loads of contacts who use it,
     
  3. Poorbuthappy

    Poorbuthappy Member

    Location:
    Devon
    Tried to quote headless chicken, but got some random post:confused:

    Anyway, there is someone local who agbags if you were interested guth, though it'll up your costs somewhat compared to using your own. Less waste with the agbag I've found however, so not all loss. Pm me if interested.
    Alternatively, can you put a concrete pad down next to a wall? ?r I've even used dung boarding to create a pit.
    But I would think a 'mole heap' would be viable if done well.
    Keeping Roland at bay is main priority, as suggested above, though I've found lime to be of limited help
     
  4. rob1

    rob1 Member

    Location:
    wiltshire
    does anyone use wheat for crimping or mainly barley, going to do mine next year to sell and would like to do wheat as well
     
  5. multi power

    multi power Member

    Location:
    pembrokeshire
    here anything gets crimped, wheat, barley or tricialie
     
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  6. rob1

    rob1 Member

    Location:
    wiltshire
    Whats the best way to treat, acid or bugs? and sell at harvest or treat and store then sell during the winter?
     
  7. multi power

    multi power Member

    Location:
    pembrokeshire
    acid is used here
     
  8. Great In Grass

    Location:
    Cornwall.
    I sell a lot of bugs. (y)
     
  9. rob1

    rob1 Member

    Location:
    wiltshire
    People tell me rats dont like the acid treated stuff so much, certainly didnt when we used to propcorn ours for the cows, what is the cost difference?
     
  10. multi power

    multi power Member

    Location:
    pembrokeshire
    but sunshine is still better n cheaper !
     
  11. Great In Grass

    Location:
    Cornwall.
    I think we have been here before! :p
     
  12. multi power

    multi power Member

    Location:
    pembrokeshire
    im just glad there is a good bit of water between cornwall n pembs !
     
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  13. Poorbuthappy

    Poorbuthappy Member

    Location:
    Devon
    I used acid when I started crimping (about 12 years ago) and found the rats liked it, plus it went off quicker around the holes resulting in more spoilage compared to the bugs I subsequently used.
     
  14. Forage Trader

    Forage Trader Member

    Location:
    Ceredigion
    Wheat is best but others will do
     
  15. Walterp

    Walterp Member

    Location:
    Pembrokeshire
    Appeared today at a Farming Connect presentation in Crickhowell.

    Crimping? All the advantages that FT says (yep, rats don't like lime, because it gets in their eyes when they rub 'em with their little paws) and the host farmer showed us his clamp, filled it about a metre high, the fact that he then covered it with maize (great idea) and then used a green sheet and (for the rooks) a black webbing.

    Drawbacks? Without a covering of maize or wholecrop I got the impression that lack of compaction/aeration (and rats) could be a problem.

    Advantages? Better feed value than hard grain, without the acidosis problems.

    Origins? Sweden.
     
  16. st piran

    st piran Member

    Location:
    cornwall
    Acidosis can still be issue with crimped grain, that's for sure! I guess it was the kelvin cave rep that told you that? Think they've lost a lot of ground to home n dry and maxamon treated grain in recent years!
     
  17. Walterp

    Walterp Member

    Location:
    Pembrokeshire
    Funny you should say that...

    Yes he did.
     
  18. Forage Trader

    Forage Trader Member

    Location:
    Ceredigion
    We used to fatten hundreds of cattle on add lib crimp and never had one with acidosis , could be luck, had some die with dry grain ,
     
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  19. Burnie Gunther

    Location:
    The West Country
    Had a liver report back on all of them confirming this did you?
     
  20. gone up the hill

    Location:
    Devon
    I get the odd bull/steer with Acidosis but have never lost one ( yet ) key is to drench them with 4 litres of cooking oil and then walk them around the handling pen for an hour or so!!

    So what is this home n dry and maxamon treated grain and how do you store it??

    Another damn prob iv got is that iv just discovered weevils :mad: in my grain store so until I use all last years grain and spray the shed etc I cant really put this years grain in it(n)
     

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