Direct drilling into FYM?

[Baling Hay]

How about drill first, spread after?

Get out of here with your common sense!!!

 

[yellow belly]

better to spread thinly on double the acreage

often cultivation does not improve soil when it is badly timed in relation to the weather

 

[ollie989898]

How about drill first, spread after?

Seen this done, used to do it for a big estate, all their OSR was direct drilled and pig solids thrown on after. On the chalks mind so driving all over it with a spreader never left a mark. Have seen the same done with chicken litter from tramlines.

Incorporating manure doesn't really make sense from a soil perspective. Encourage the soil fauna on to the surface and let them attack the previous crop residue as well. Burying stuff deep away from the oxygen is counter productive.

 

[Midlands Farmer]

Well we’re spreading it now, trouble is there’s a bit more muck than I thought and no extra fields to put it on here! Just wondering about hiring a neighbors straw rake instead of discontent it? I’ll put some pictures up in a bit of what I’m dealing with... thanks everyone for the tips

 

[Midlands Farmer]

 

[Midlands Farmer]

 

[Midlands Farmer]

I know those mucks a bit thick. What’s people’s thoughts on best plan of action from here?

 

[robs1]

Just let it dry out for a few days before drilling, many drill into chopped straw without worry so cant see the issue with some muck

 

[snarling bee]

only sewage sludge I think ?

the rules say attempt to incorporate I believe, I would argue my drill just didn't do a great job ........ but I made an attempt

on good biologicaly active no til soils the FYM or compost disappears in days

????
I've been shooting in December on 10yr no till clay, and sewage sludge is still there from a September spread, as if it had been spread the week before. But then days could be 200 days.
So I assume you mean 'on my sandy loam good biologically active no-till soils'

 

[ajd132]

We put chicken muck on infront of rape and cover crops and just direct drilled into it. Never done it with high rate stuff like sewage sludge or fym though.

 

[teslacoils]

????
I've been shooting in December on 10yr no till clay, and sewage sludge is still there from a September spread, as if it had been spread the week before. But then days could be 200 days.

Niiiiice.

 

[Clive]

????
I've been shooting in December on 10yr no till clay, and sewage sludge is still there from a September spread, as if it had been spread the week before. But then days could be 200 days.
So I assume you mean 'on my sandy loam good biologically active no-till soils'

nope We have some clay soils as well and within days of spreading compost or fym you wouldn’t know it had been

I don’t think soil type has much connection to how quickly it disappears, it’s more about worm and biological organism numbers so longer in zero-till systems the faster it disappears

if you read my post you will see we do incorporate sewage sludge - It’s the law / local council environmental agency people get complaints otherwise with us being quite so urban fringe

 

[tr250]

????
I've been shooting in December on 10yr no till clay, and sewage sludge is still there from a September spread, as if it had been spread the week before. But then days could be 200 days.
So I assume you mean 'on my sandy loam good biologically active no-till soils'

We spread muck on no-till clay loam and it’s gone easily within 6 months especially if it’s been wet enough for worms to work the surface. We spread our own cattle muck though all you can see is cows tails which we clip on turnout so 6-8 inches of course hair. Sewage sludge might be a bit potent for worms

 

[yellow belly]

If you have too much then leave it a year to rot down a bit more