How Can Pork Or Chicken Pay When It's Almost Free At The Shop?

[teslacoils]

....when I can buy a joint of British pork shoulder in Morrisons today for £2 a kilo?

Or a whole UK chicken (1.7kg) for £2.99

Who is "paying" for this?

It's time there were some price controls on supermarkets.

 

[Jackov Altraids]

....when I can buy a joint of British pork shoulder in Morrisons today for £2 a kilo?

Or a whole UK chicken (1.7kg) for £2.99

Who is "paying" for this?

It's time there were some price controls on supermarkets.

Vertical integration innit.

There is no 'market' value so the price is controlled by the supermarkets.

There is nothing being done to stop it, but there is a huge push [via Red Tractor] to make beef and lamb the same.
I'm sure a farming 'union' would prevent this........

 

[Hilly]

Vertical integration innit.

There is no 'market' value so the price is controlled by the supermarkets.

There is nothing being done to stop it, but there is a huge push [via Red Tractor] to make beef and lamb the same.
I'm sure a farming 'union' would prevent this........

The farmers are helping as well .

 

[Hilly]

Just sign here ....... you double crossing cockwomble .

 

[bitwrx]

....when I can buy a joint of British pork shoulder in Morrisons today for £2 a kilo?

Or a whole UK chicken (1.7kg) for £2.99

Who is "paying" for this?

It's time there were some price controls on supermarkets.

Morrisons are paying at the moment. They are 'helping' the industry clear it's backlog by giving away what we produce. Price at the farm gate on the open market is approx £1.40/kg dwt. Pork is a loss leader for them at the mo.

Our bloody fault for producing so much though really. And for being so willing to put up with the poor returns.

 

[Netherfield]

You'll never control the price whilst there's overproduction.

 

[Jackov Altraids]

The thing that riles me most is the bulls**t and hypocrisy.
This has made pork and chicken undervalued, worse for welfare/ environment and ever more intensive while always selling the image of the small independent producer that they are putting out of business.
But the boxes will be ticked......

 

[Jackov Altraids]

Morrisons are paying at the moment. They are 'helping' the industry clear it's backlog by giving away what we produce. Price at the farm gate on the open market is approx £1.40/kg dwt. Pork is a loss leader for them at the mo.

Our bloody fault for producing so much though really. And for being so willing to put up with the poor returns.

Who financed / encouraged all the production?

 

[teslacoils]

I'm just finding it hard to discourage waste / respect food production when you can buy a whole chicken for the price of a tube of Pringles.

Thought I'd use my spare time to make a YouTube on how to use all of the pig or vhicken to make food - proper home economics.

 

[lloyd]

....when I can buy a joint of British pork shoulder in Morrisons today for £2 a kilo?

Or a whole UK chicken (1.7kg) for £2.99

Who is "paying" for this?

It's time there were some price controls on supermarkets.

Intensive soya fed broiler chicken is fast production .
These state of the art modern sheds are pushing out 7.5 crops
a year (so I've been told by my mate with new sheds).
The volume of meat they produce in such a short time
is unbelievable, that's why it can be sold cheap by the supermarkets.

 

[GeorgeK]

....when I can buy a joint of British pork shoulder in Morrisons today for £2 a kilo?

Or a whole UK chicken (1.7kg) for £2.99

Who is "paying" for this?

It's time there were some price controls on supermarkets.

You need to upgrade to an 'ag-spec' calculator. Make spring OSR add up or your money back! (Yes it's raining today)

 

[Jackov Altraids]

You need to upgrade to an 'ag-spec' calculator. Make spring OSR add up or your money back! (Yes it's raining today)

Average return on stake, 76%.
Farming could be worse than that without BPS.

 

[teslacoils]

I've got a spring osr calculator. Get be me the money you would spend on growing it. I'll give you it back, less ten percent, in October. Still better than sosr.

Fillet steak £29.50/kg. Cut thin so it will cook like sh!t.

Chicken thighs £1.99/kg. Bone them, quarter them, batter and fry. Fantastic.

Pork loin chops £4.50/kg. Rub in flour, egg, breadcrumb. Four mins in the frier. Ace.

Pic is of a nice pork tonkatsu i made. Can't go wrong. Currently busy freezing home made chicken stock.

 

[beefandsleep]

Vertical integration [emoji23] and some turkeys want beef to go the same way.
Stop and think before you sign those contracts (or open your books to Tesco dairy farmers).

 

[digger64]

Morrisons are paying at the moment. They are 'helping' the industry clear it's backlog by giving away what we produce. Price at the farm gate on the open market is approx £1.40/kg dwt. Pork is a loss leader for them at the mo.

Our bloody fault for producing so much though really. And for being so willing to put up with the poor returns.

Isnt it to do with brexit/covid and uk processing capacity (or lack of ) ?

 

[spin cycle]

isn't it the chinese ban on german pork imports due to swine flu.. so to much in EU

seem to 1000's pigs about...can't work out how they keep going

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

Morrisons are paying at the moment. They are 'helping' the industry clear it's backlog by giving away what we produce. Price at the farm gate on the open market is approx £1.40/kg dwt. Pork is a loss leader for them at the mo.

Our bloody fault for producing so much though really. And for being so willing to put up with the poor returns.

Oh, and by 2030 please prove you're net zero carbon while you're at it.....

 

[bitwrx]

Isnt it to do with brexit/covid and uk processing capacity (or lack of ) ?

Yes. Food service has shut down, christmas didn't happen etc. This all softens demand.
Processing capacity has been hit hard by covid in abattoir workforces, but that's getting better.
Covid in the abattoirs has also shut off exports to China. Covid is a notifiable disease. Chinese have fairly strict phytosanitary (or do I mean political?) requirements around notifiable diseases so some of the processors don't export there for the time being. This affects carcase balance, which depresses the overall price more.
Brexit affected the cull sow trade over the new year, but this wouldn't have been so bad if....

isn't it the chinese ban on german pork imports due to swine flu.. so to much in EU

seem to 1000's pigs about...can't work out how they keep going

As @spin cycle points out, African swine fever in German wild boar has shut off the Chinese export market to all German pork, so their freezers were already full.

It's hard to think of anything else that could've gone wrong at the same time to make it any worse TBH. Apart from the price of grain and protein crops going through the roof, that is. Oh wait, they already have.

My point still stands though. The only reason it's available so cheap is because we've produced too much. We weren't to know that 9 months ago when we served the buggers, but we sure as sh!t know it now. But that's business. If I wasn't up for that risk I would've stayed in my salary job.

Oh, and by 2030 please prove you're net zero carbon while you're at it.....

It's ok, by 2030 we'll all be living in mud huts. Or cob and thatch in my part of the world. Look forward to it.

 

[Chasingmytail]

Cant work out how any farmer enjoys factory farming with daily worry of a squeezed margin. Rather not do it than feeding shite and pushing everything to the limits. Still a demand for premium.

 

[Pieces_of_Eight]

Tempted to fill the freezer at £2/kg for roasting joints.

Tesco are still £3.50/kg