- Location
- Mid Lincolnshire,UK
Sorry forgot to say Frontiers own transport!
Is there a standard minimum load before cap charges apply?
- Thread starter Flat 10
- Start date
- Location
- Moreton-in-Marsh, Glos
Last July, I delivered all 7.7 tonnes of our entire Rape harvest (from the 20 acres I combined out of the 110 I planted) by tractor and trailer and got a capped load charge for it!
Fortunately, they did refund me. But only after I pointed out the error of their ways.
Fortunately, they did refund me. But only after I pointed out the error of their ways.
ollie989898
Member
Oats are good feed for youngstock because of the nature of the fibre in them.
- Location
- Perthshire (It's a big place!)
Had a bill for a capped load at 26.640! As there was a big pile of wheat still in the shed I've told them to stick it 
One haulier runs DAF CFs and can get 30T, another with Scania V8 struggle for 27.
One haulier runs DAF CFs and can get 30T, another with Scania V8 struggle for 27.
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
I thought standard contracts were +/- 15 % of contract amount.i know weve sent more when prices are favorable and weve been a bit lean when prices moved up after its sold.
I also had it when i was sending corn into the same mill in the same month and i noticed one merchant was charging £2 extra weightbridge charge and when i looked has been for years. Once i pointed this out to them they reduced it to the same but for years theyd been creaming 2 quid a load out of me, it doesnt sound much but multiplied up oer all the loads delivered and there on a nice little earner
I also had it when i was sending corn into the same mill in the same month and i noticed one merchant was charging £2 extra weightbridge charge and when i looked has been for years. Once i pointed this out to them they reduced it to the same but for years theyd been creaming 2 quid a load out of me, it doesnt sound much but multiplied up oer all the loads delivered and there on a nice little earner
Don’t start that, I really don’t see why I should be charged for the weighbridge at all. They don’t at the quarry or the scrapyard.
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
Thats because everything to do with ag is geared towards screwing as much as possible out of the farmer as we sit right at the bottom of the pile.
It was a small local company whos rep has dealt with 4 generatons of my family, i bet weve really helped his pension pot along since the 60's!!!!!
- Location
- Lincolnshire
I strongly disagree with paying a weighbridge charge at a merchants mill when it has gone over a weighbridge leaving the central store. Can only be time before this charge goes.
Weighbridge charges are a nightmare. What gets me really vexed is having to pay weighbridge charges on grain sold ex central store. I own the space in the store and in reality own a share of the weighbridge which is certified as a public weighbridge. So why should I pay a weighbridge charge 
on grain that I sell from the central store?
on grain that I sell from the central store?
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
Id love to install a weigh bridge and charge merchants(the same ones who buy my grain and charge me) everytime they deliver fert or seed. I bet they would soon complain.
- Location
- Huntingdon
You are confusing two separate scenarios, when selling grain ex farm the price is derived by taking the delivered price and deducting the haulage cost per tonne quoted, basis a 29t load, so a £6 haul would be £174 for the load. If the load is short loaded then a CAP charge may be applied by the haulier to top the cost up to a full load, charges vary per haulier, but most seem to apply it sub 28t.
What you are quoting there is short loading against a sale, (badly mis quoting) 15% of a contract is a bonkers ammount of variance, the actual term is 5% or 15t which ever is least.
C B
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
Ah yes thats the one, 5% or 15t sounds right.
But i admit not taking too much notice as most con merchants seem to make the rules up as they go along to suite how they bought it and weather the destination wants it at time of arrival.
- Location
- Huntingdon
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
Playing them at there own game[emoji6]
Kildare
Member
- Location
- Kildare, Ireland
Never heard of weight bridge charges in Ireland when you are dealing with grain.
down n'dirty
Member
- Location
- South Wales
I always ask the drivers how much they can carry before loading-seems to vary between 28T and 29.5T. you can guarantee if I've sold it well they can only take 28T- if sold badly, they always seem to want 29.5T!!!!!
bravheart
Member
- Location
- scottish borders
Just a note
Heard this harvest that one merchant hauling to his own store was neither rejecting or paying for over weight loads, the extra was accepted but unaccounted for and that included haulier payments.
In other words if you broke or helped to break the gross vehicle weight limits, tough we only pay for 44t gross or whatever the limit is for that truck.
Heard this harvest that one merchant hauling to his own store was neither rejecting or paying for over weight loads, the extra was accepted but unaccounted for and that included haulier payments.
In other words if you broke or helped to break the gross vehicle weight limits, tough we only pay for 44t gross or whatever the limit is for that truck.
- Location
- Perthshire (It's a big place!)
Sounds like shite to me, every lorry we have had here always loads to the limit, drivers don't know what price your grain is, they just get told, move x loads to here.
- Location
- Perthshire (It's a big place!)
Let me guess, big Independent merchant
bravheart
Member
- Location
- scottish borders
It was an owner/driver who told me he didn’t get paid for excess and it wouldn’t be recorded on our weighticket either.
Nothing to do with price,amount delivered, contract quantity +or-. He just wouldn’t get paid for extra .From memory he was the second load of four going to silos south of the border run by a big company already mentioned here.
edit. they were claiming h+s considerations!!!