Liming Grassland ?

[Cab-over Pete]

I don’t like the “we will only come for a big order” idea. Dad started this business up to serve the smaller customer and I haven’t forgotten that.

Don’t get me wrong, if you’re 20 miles away and you want one lorry load I’ll ask you to wait until I’ve got something at least half way there, but I’ve never turned a job down yet.

 

[Coximus]

aye daft thing is One of the same guys I got to do my landlords place for winter keep (I take the winter catch crop for the next 5y and they do the summer arable) and that was a good 200ac of work, and my own bits last year, but wont touch this block unless theirs more in it.
So I have a small towed spreader which means next year I will probabbly do my own 500kg/ac top up on the 6.1 fields. Rather than ringing up.

Can you recomend any good quarries up north in Yorkshire? Anoyingly all my local ones are mag lime and do a fantastic product but the calcium lime is all tarmac or hanson whos lime is simply appaling, and the samples they sent are so course and unreactive as to be pointless.
Following on from the points about large sizes not reacting in your post - I put some of the 6mm chunks in battery acid last night and theyre still their.... the smaller bits under 1mm went in seconds but something does stop the larger bits quickly.

 

[Cab-over Pete]

It’s all about surface area. Weight for weight, fine dust has more surface area than big chips.

In its extreme form if you put a tonne of dust so fine it runs like liquid on an acre it would be gone in a few wet weeks. But if you plonked a tonne block in the middle of the acre it would even out last The Rolling Stones.

I know, that’s some claim!!!!’

 

[Cab-over Pete]

North Yorkshire, you could try Robinson’s at Brandesburton.

Mind you, I think Neil Fewlass has bought the spreading business off them now. I think he’s on here occasionally but can’t remember his user name!

 

[Boohoo]

3 weeks without rain and slow grass growth mean I've managed to avoid both granulated lime and trying to spread lime with the Vicon.

 

[Ormond]

I'd be inclined to apply after first cut....if conditions are favorable..... Who knows what the autumn will be.....if done straight after field cleared it'll get onto the soil and start working it's way down over the following months....

 

[Thomas5060]

3 weeks without rain and slow grass growth mean I've managed to avoid both granulated lime and trying to spread lime with the Vicon. View attachment 871316View attachment 871317View attachment 871318

McNabney?

 

[Boohoo]

McNabney?

Yes. Very pleased with the job they did, they'll definitely be back.

 

[Loftyrules]

I have 15 acres of pasture with a pH of 5.5-5.7 have been recommended that 2t/acre will boost the pH to 6.5.
If spreading close to houses should I be offering to pay for a window cleaner afterwards? (One of the houses is my dads) or is dust on windows and doors etc minimal?

 

[Sharpy]

I have 15 acres of pasture with a pH of 5.5-5.7 have been recommended that 2t/acre will boost the pH to 6.5.
If spreading close to houses should I be offering to pay for a window cleaner afterwards? (One of the houses is my dads) or is dust on windows and doors etc minimal?

If the wind is in the wrong direction I would dampen the lime, also means you keep the best bit of the lime.

 

[ollie989898]

I have 15 acres of pasture with a pH of 5.5-5.7 have been recommended that 2t/acre will boost the pH to 6.5.
If spreading close to houses should I be offering to pay for a window cleaner afterwards? (One of the houses is my dads) or is dust on windows and doors etc minimal?

How many houses are you talking about? What's the importance of the neighbours etc?

I'd advise them the day it would be spread and get a quote from a window cleaner to do the lot afterwards. If the bill was piffling then I would probably offer and get it done for them anyway.

Liming needs to be done as a priority in all honesty. It makes life a lot easier for growing stuff.

 

[Loftyrules]

I don't want to pee them off, small village, would probably only be 2-3 houses affected. Sounds like that's the best plan then, one of them would only get dust if it blows across the road.

Agree I want to get it done, P levels are fine but K needs a boost too but no point without lime first.

 

[ollie989898]

I don't want to pee them off, small village, would probably only be 2-3 houses affected. Sounds like that's the best plan then, one of them would only get dust if it blows across the road.

Agree I want to get it done, P levels are fine but K needs a boost too but no point without lime first.

If it is only a handful of houses I would offer to get the windows cleaned, whether the lime becomes an issue or not. The cost is piffling. Better to keep them in your pocket.

 

[Cab-over Pete]

I’m sure your spreading man knows this, but you can spread some extremely dusty lime at low disc speed and create virtually no drift.

Might be better to pay the spreader a bit more than have the drift.

 

[Ormond]

I've often wondered when you see a big cloud of dust drifting away in the distance.... How much you lose and is this a lot of the good part of the lime that's small particles that would be working sooner than the larger particles.......

 

[N.Yorks.]

aye daft thing is One of the same guys I got to do my landlords place for winter keep (I take the winter catch crop for the next 5y and they do the summer arable) and that was a good 200ac of work, and my own bits last year, but wont touch this block unless theirs more in it.
So I have a small towed spreader which means next year I will probabbly do my own 500kg/ac top up on the 6.1 fields. Rather than ringing up.

Can you recomend any good quarries up north in Yorkshire? Anoyingly all my local ones are mag lime and do a fantastic product but the calcium lime is all tarmac or hanson whos lime is simply appaling, and the samples they sent are so course and unreactive as to be pointless.
Following on from the points about large sizes not reacting in your post - I put some of the 6mm chunks in battery acid last night and theyre still their.... the smaller bits under 1mm went in seconds but something does stop the larger bits quickly.

Leyburn quarry (Cemex) supply Calcium limestone, either as 0-4mm or sometimes 0-2mm, the last analysis (2017) I saw from there showed it had an NV 68%. The contact I have there is Jeff Sewell 07801 741 911.

If you've got soil pH results I can do you a lime recommendation based on the lime NV and the soil pH. Wouldn't cost much for me to do - sorry have to eat....

 

[Cab-over Pete]

I've often wondered when you see a big cloud of dust drifting away in the distance.... How much you lose and is this a lot of the good part of the lime that's small particles that would be working sooner than the larger particles.......

The answer is very, very little. It is a very dense product so looks a lot, but it’s bugger all. I do concede it looks a lot, but if it was someone would have noticed it not working by now!!

Years ago my Dad was told huge studies had been done on the subject. The outcome was (something like) less than 2% is physically capable of blowing 12 metres in a 12 mph wind. Obviously, most of that 2% lands before it gets anywhere.

 

[Loftyrules]

I’m sure your spreading man knows this, but you can spread some extremely dusty lime at low disc speed and create virtually no drift.

Might be better to pay the spreader a bit more than have the drift.

Thank you