LPG or OIL ???

[scottrac]

Put a large extension on farmhouse for the in laws to move into and in doing so have ended up doing loads of major repairs to our house (250 year old been bodged and bodged by previous owners)new roof/ceilings etc and renewing all electrics and plumbing,also having underfloor heating fitted if thats makes a difference?
Been on oil for the 6 years we've had it but plumber is suggesting look at lpg as new boiler will be smaller and cheaper,obviously need a tank etc,whats everyones thoughts?
Thanks in advance

 

[robs1]

All down to running costs, what about a big log boiler and store, can burn your own wood then

 

[scottrac]

All down to running costs, what about a big log boiler and store, can burn your own wood then

hadn't thought of that,will look into that,thanks.
I'm only considering it as would need to put new oil tank and line in anyway (old one knackered)

 

[br jones]

LPG here ,and in the last 4 houses , underground tank from flogas ,

 

[steveR]

With both oil and gas here in let properties and in the past, for ourselves, I would say oil. At least it is easy to chop suppliers and get best prices, but choose LPG, and you are locked in, unless you have your own tank.

Not insulated well enough for a GSHP I suppose??

If in-laws are moving in, are they young enough to feed and run a wood boiler?? And still in 5-10 years time. Push button has major benefits. I was going to put in a big boiler here in 2010 and asked myself, do I want to collect fuel and load it 3-4 times a week when I am 60? I said no, and it was the best decision I made, now at 65

 

[scottrac]

LPG here ,and in the last 4 houses , underground tank from flogas ,

is that fairly recent? how much ish for tank etc (pm if you prefer)

 

[scottrac]

With both oil and gas here in let properties and in the past, for ourselves, I would say oil. At least it is easy to chop suppliers and get best prices, LPG, and you are locked in, unless you have your own tank.

Not insulated well enough for a GSHP I suppose??

If in-laws are moving in, are they young enough to feed and run a wood boiler?? And still in 5-10 years time. Push button has major benefits. I was going to put in a big boiler here in 2010 and asked myself, do I want to collect fuel and load it 3-4 times a week when I am 60? I said no, and it was the best decision I made, now at 65

to be honest thats what i thought (not locked in)but then i suppose with lpg no filters etc to worry about?
pro's and con's,I think wood would be a no go,have a full time job aswell so takes long enough to chop and split for the log burner

 

[ollie989898]

Oil. More suppliers about.

Build a chimney up through the middle of the house and a gert wood burner under it.

 

[steveR]

to be honest thats what i thought (not locked in)but then i suppose with lpg no filters etc to worry about?
pro's and con's,I think wood would be a no go,have a full time job aswell so takes long enough to chop and split for the log burner

Lets be honest, an LPG boiler and oil combi cost much the same for service and safety check, gas maybe 20 quid less/annum here.

Capital cost on oil installation is higher, but enough to be a concern??

 

[scottrac]

Oil. More suppliers about.

Build a chimney up through the middle of the house and a gert wood burner under it.

chimneys/flu's already in for log burners

 

[Hampton]

Do not, under any circumstances go with LPG.
You will regret every day you don’t use oil.
Lpg is a total pain in the arse, it’s expensive, sellers are limited etc etc

 

[scottrac]

Lets be honest, an LPG boiler and oil combi cost much the same for service and safety check, gas maybe 20 quid less/annum here.

Capital cost on oil installation is higher, but enough to be a concern??

can't go down the combi route as place to big and water pressure and flow rubbish (even after upgrading 400m pipe to 50mm and the meter) so will be pressure vessel and normal boiler,
will get him to price for both but as never had gas didn't know the deal with the tank etc and legalities for position etc?

 

[ollie989898]

can't go down the combi route as place to big and water pressure and flow rubbish (even after upgrading 400m pipe to 50mm and the meter) so will be pressure vessel and normal boiler,
will get him to price for both but as never had gas didn't know the deal with the tank etc and legalities for position etc?

If water pressure is pants, put a pump in to feed the taps/shower in the bathrooms etc.

 

[Hampton]

can't go down the combi route as place to big and water pressure and flow rubbish (even after upgrading 400m pipe to 50mm and the meter) so will be pressure vessel and normal boiler,
will get him to price for both but as never had gas didn't know the deal with the tank etc and legalities for position etc?

Put this in our cellar 2 years ago.
It’s running a 3storey 7 bedroom farm house with 5 bathrooms and water underfloor on 60% of the ground floor.
It actually uses less fuel than the old gravity boiler, which didn’t heat the top floor at all, and had 3 less bathrooms
Runs on mains pressure

 

[scottrac]

If water pressure is pants, put a pump in to feed the taps/shower in the bathrooms etc.

been running with pumps for a couple of years now,still no good.
as i've found out if the flow is rubbish the pumps can't do the job

 

[ollie989898]

been running with pumps for a couple of years now,still no good.
as i've found out if the flow is rubbish the pumps can't do the job

Can you fit a header tank and let the pump feed from that so you have good flow for long enough to fill a bath or have a shower?

 

[br jones]

is that fairly recent? how much ish for tank etc (pm if you prefer)

1 year contracts with the gas suppliers ,and to be honest a tankfull does well overr ayear ,one fillup a year ,last lot was 55p a litre about 3 weeks ago
Flogas supplies and fitted a 2200 litre tank ( i did the groundworks ,hole and trench)
tank cost was £ 515 ,

 

[Forkdriver]

Get an oil boiler but if possible one that is outside in its own little cabinet. It doesn't matter what size the boiler is and it doesn't intrude.

 

[br jones]

Do not, under any circumstances go with LPG.
You will regret every day you don’t use oil.
Lpg is a total pain in the arse, it’s expensive, sellers are limited etc etc

Complete rot,price is fixed every time you renew contract ,unlike oil suppliers who will regularly raise prices at a drop of a hat ,i filled up a tank in september with gas at 36.7 p a litre ,oil was over a quid

 

[scottrac]

Put this in our cellar 2 years ago.
It’s running a 3storey 7 bedroom farm house with 5 bathrooms and water underfloor on 60% of the ground floor.
It actually uses less fuel than the old gravity boiler, which didn’t heat the top floor at all, and had 3 less bathrooms
Runs on mains pressure

are those pressure vessels?
The plumber is advising 1 vessel for 3 bathrooms and 3 en suites?
7 bedrooms but only over 2 storeys