Mastek eco trailing shoe

[CWS]

Are there any users of the mastek eco trailing shoe? What's the general opinion? Looking at a 9m unit for a tanker. Not a huge fan of dribble bars but they are a lot simpler and cheaper cheers

 

[james ds]

Are there any users of the mastek eco trailing shoe? What's the general opinion? Looking at a 9m unit for a tanker. Not a huge fan of dribble bars but they are a lot simpler and cheaper cheers

Is it the hanging from the back door model , chassis mounted is better.

 

[CWS]

Is it the hanging from the back door model , chassis mounted is better.

Will be chassis mounted. Not a fan of hanging all weight on back door

 

[Speedstar]

Are there any users of the mastek eco trailing shoe? What's the general opinion? Looking at a 9m unit for a tanker. Not a huge fan of dribble bars but they are a lot simpler and cheaper cheers

They are not the best take a look at a vogelstang one or a one with a pan type massarator if you slurry is a bit thinker

 

[CWS]

They are not the best take a look at a vogelstang one or a one with a pan type massarator if you slurry is a bit thinker

Out of interest what's not great on them? Compared to the vogelsang set ups. Slurry not generally too thick

 

[Speedstar]

Out of interest what's not great on them? Compared to the vogelsang set ups. Slurry not generally too thick

Vogelsang massarators are a lot better at putting the slurry out even , if you do a flow test on them you can see the difference , all so you may be able to go to 12 meters the way the Vogelsang folds up on a tanker it is very nice set , up , we run A Joskin on on one tanker but we have a Vogelsang pan type massarator on it & that works very well but only 7.5 meters wide, the other is a bromec with extra cut vogelsang massarator on it again 7.5 meters wide & it works well. one of ours is on 4 point linage on the back the other mounted to the chassie , both may not the the cheapest out there but are built to work & should last well.

 

[d williams]

Vogelsang massarators are a lot better at putting the slurry out even , if you do a flow test on them you can see the difference , all so you may be able to go to 12 meters the way the Vogelsang folds up on a tanker it is very nice set , up , we run A Joskin on on one tanker but we have a Vogelsang pan type massarator on it & that works very well but only 7.5 meters wide, the other is a bromec with extra cut vogelsang massarator on it again 7.5 meters wide & it works well. one of ours is on 4 point linage on the back the other mounted to the chassie , both may not the the cheapest out there but are built to work & should last well.

At that width are you struggling to help aplication rates low enough???

 

[Bald Rick]

+1 for Vogelsang … but they are chuffing expensive and personally I would only buy one if you spread a lot of slurry.

It might actually be cheaper to buy a new tanker with a boom already fitted?

 

[CWS]

+1 for Vogelsang … but they are chuffing expensive and personally I would only buy one if you spread a lot of slurry.

It might actually be cheaper to buy a new tanker with a boom already fitted?

The tanker hasn't been bought yet, this was just trying to work out what to put on the back. Personally a splash plate works fine but powers above are pushing us in a different direction and I'm wanting to make sure I choose the right one. Probably going to end up with a dribble bar to be fair going off the prices

 

[Speedstar]

At that width are you struggling to help aplication rates low enough???

Yes at 20 Cube per ha it is fine

 

[Bald Rick]

The tanker hasn't been bought yet, this was just trying to work out what to put on the back. Personally a splash plate works fine but powers above are pushing us in a different direction and I'm wanting to make sure I choose the right one. Probably going to end up with a dribble bar to be fair going off the prices

Think long and hard before committing any money is only the half of it.

If you’re on a multi cut silage system (or even 3 cut), both splash plate and dribble bar increase the risk of contamination and butyric silage.

Most tanker makers will supply booms fitted and that’s the easiest way. We had to take our tanker to Crewe so Vogelsang could fit their boom but it was a far better job than buggering about at home

 

[The Son]

Think long and hard before committing any money is only the half of it.

If you’re on a multi cut silage system (or even 3 cut), both splash plate and dribble bar increase the risk of contamination and butyric silage.

Most tanker makers will supply booms fitted and that’s the easiest way. We had to take our tanker to Crewe so Vogelsang could fit their boom but it was a far better job than buggering about at home

You have made a very important point, matching the dribble bar/trailing shoe to the tanker is VERY important, we did not do this, buying a dribble bar from one maker and a tanker from the other, and we now have a very poorly balanced outfit, with no weight on the tractor drawbar.
If I was in your position I would choose the tanker, and then go to the tanker manufacturer to see what they recommend putting on the back. Axle position is crucial.

 

[Bald Rick]

You have made a very important point, matching the dribble bar/trailing shoe to the tanker is VERY important, we did not do this, buying a dribble bar from one maker and a tanker from the other, and we now have a very poorly balanced outfit, with no weight on the tractor drawbar.
If I was in your position I would choose the tanker, and then go to the tanker manufacturer to see what they recommend putting on the back. Axle position is crucial.

When we were looking, every manufacturer listed their boom suppliers. Some, such as Connor, make their own as well but you can specify 4 point linkage at the build stage if you’re not prepared to invest/want to wait for grant at order time

 

[Bald Rick]

BTW, there is a massive difference between the standard 7.5m booms often quoted and shown on the manufacturers webpages and anything over 12m

Price being one

 

[d williams]

Yes at 20 Cube per ha it is fine

Yes but could you put 8

 

[ColinV6]

I’m sitting with a quote here for a 9m slurrykat to mount on the rear door of my hi-spec 2500 and the weight / balance issue is a concern I have also. Surely half a tonne hanging out the back is going to make it pretty horrible at the drawbar end?

The whole thing doesn’t excite me in the slightest to be honest. Perfectly happy with using a splash plate. It’s fast and simple and gets the slurry onto the field where it’s always made the grass grow nicely in my opinion. Being railroaded into spending money to complicate something and make it slower really doesn’t sit right. But hey ho.

 

[Speedstar]

Yes but could you put 8

No we would never put 8 cube's to the ha on that is a waste of time , 20 per ha is least any one wants with the tanker's

This was today with the umbilical cord you can see how well it puts it in the ground with in a few days it is all gone

 

[Speedstar]

I’m sitting with a quote here for a 9m slurrykat to mount on the rear door of my hi-spec 2500 and the weight / balance issue is a concern I have also. Surely half a tonne hanging out the back is going to make it pretty horrible at the drawbar end?

The whole thing doesn’t excite me in the slightest to be honest. Perfectly happy with using a splash plate. It’s fast and simple and gets the slurry onto the field where it’s always made the grass grow nicely in my opinion. Being railroaded into spending money to complicate something and make it slower really doesn’t sit right. But hey ho.

The price that fert is now with the right trailing shoe you will have your money back in no time with more grass from you own slurry , get one with a flow meter then you know how much you are putting on .

 

[Wesley]

I’m sitting with a quote here for a 9m slurrykat to mount on the rear door of my hi-spec 2500 and the weight / balance issue is a concern I have also. Surely half a tonne hanging out the back is going to make it pretty horrible at the drawbar end?

Trailing shoe? Roughly what price would it be? Everyone seems keen to quote for 7.5m.
For all the abuse Joskin seem to get on here i’d say its one place they’re ahead of the game. We can unbolt the axle & move it back to counter the extra weight on the back. Not sure why other makes don’t seem to do it considering they’ve been talking about banning splash plates for years.

 

[ColinV6]

Trailing shoe? Roughly what price would it be? Everyone seems keen to quote for 7.5m.
For all the abuse Joskin seem to get on here i’d say its one place they’re ahead of the game. We can unbolt the axle & move it back to counter the extra weight on the back. Not sure why other makes don’t seem to do it considering they’ve been talking about banning splash plates for years.

No, it’s a dribble bar sorry.

I noticed the majority go for 7.5m but I’d be reluctant to spread narrower than a splash plate can. I think 9m dribble bar is the biggest you can go on the tanker rear door. Even noticed on the quote that Slurrykat take no responsibility for any damage to the tanker caused by mounting it and the extra stress and weight.