wellingtonfarmer
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- Herefordshire
Having a mzuri on demo in the spring, what's general consensus with them?
Any bad points to watch out for?
Any bad points to watch out for?
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wellingtonfarmer
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- Herefordshire
Got 250hp to pull it as we have some steep ground?
I get put off by the Clayton not being independent coulters.
I get put off by the Clayton not being independent coulters.
beardface
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- East Yorkshire
Brilliant tool. As above remember it's a drill not a flat lift. 6 inch max for cereals possibly up to 8 for rape if it's dry but if your pulling up crap just shallow off front tines until your moving a nice bit of tilth ( same for any strip drill). Narrow packer wheels if it's wet. Find a tractor that will achieve a constant 11kph on your land and then decease hp as land improves.
After getting the spade out, I ran the front legs maybe 2" deeper than the tred marks of my tyres when drilling rape. Has all come nice. Will post pic. Basically, if any clods you pull out are not being drawn back into the drills by the following harrow, then you are not set up right. The "sticking to the press wheels" rule of thumb seems to work well for winter or spring.
We put OSR in using the band coulters to avoid dropping seed down any deep cracks. The new thinking for those who arent set for seed and fert is to use the drill hopper for DAP, and put a small seeder dropping the OSR on top of the final pressed land.
If dry roll twice. Best results from rolling 90 degrees to drilling if its really hard and ridged.
If you like it, mine is available.....
We put OSR in using the band coulters to avoid dropping seed down any deep cracks. The new thinking for those who arent set for seed and fert is to use the drill hopper for DAP, and put a small seeder dropping the OSR on top of the final pressed land.
If dry roll twice. Best results from rolling 90 degrees to drilling if its really hard and ridged.
If you like it, mine is available.....
wellingtonfarmer
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- Herefordshire
How come you are selling it? Is at 3m?
It is 3m. That's the main problem - just got too much to get drilled in our weather window with a 3m drill. It isnt really being replaced, but we will be changing our old Vaderstad drill for an 8m version. 6m folding trailed strip-till drills are hellishly dear.
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- Suffolk
We had a Mzuri on demo and were generally impressed with it.
Conclusions were high HP requirement, very modern concept and design and well built. Like the way it can be used to drill maize too.
As with most modern drills you would need a decent pit for doing any work on the counters or changing discs etc.
I'm not convinced by wide coulter spacing though on this drill.
Conclusions were high HP requirement, very modern concept and design and well built. Like the way it can be used to drill maize too.
As with most modern drills you would need a decent pit for doing any work on the counters or changing discs etc.
I'm not convinced by wide coulter spacing though on this drill.
250 hp would pull a 3m well or just about manage a 4m one if run shallow. You're right about the Claydon't seed depth consistency from fixed coulters. Would you consider the use of a power harrow to level up the soil first? That's my one regret with buying a Claydon but a couple of years running at different angles & using the batter boards will soon level it up.
I liked the Mzuri - it came second in my beauty parade of a Sumo DTS, Vaderstad Spirit Strip Till, Mzuri Pro Till & Claydon Hybrid. What stopped me buying it was the complexity & extra hp requirement but if I were on stronger ground I would want a Mzuri, I think. The seed depth control was great & the ability to programme it to do whatever you want is useful for things like wide row spaced crops etc.
For what it is worth I don't know many bad stories about Mzuri. Their problem solving is great, updates are usually free without having to chase them and their capacity to build & service drills is improving all the time. Have a day with Martin Lole - his enthusiasm is infectious! Don't take the chequebook with you or you'll come away having ordered one... The Mzuri factory & farm isn't that far away from you. Springfield Farm, Peopleton, Pershore WR10 2BF.
Do try a Claydon too! Lots of happy users in here. The Sumo DTS has got better now that they have the extra stagger coulters to improve trash flow.
wellingtonfarmer
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- Herefordshire
I am going to go and see Martin he is only 40mins away!
The main aspect I like about the mzuri is the consolidation wheels behind the tines and then again after the coulters, I don't think Claydon or dts have those!
The one thing I don't like about the the mzuri is the price though!
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- Suffolk
Agree with the comments about the press wheels but we tried a sky easy drill which has an excellent solid wheel to close the slot and consolidate which I thought was better than the Mzuri. It also took half the power to pull compared to the mzuri. (You won't like the price of that either!)
Johndeere
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- Oxfordshire
Some good value DTS out there if you know where to look [emoji6], we just sold this 6 metre Grain and fert last week
Just to add to the discussion, we have some decent looking crops on some fairly tough ground this year behind the Mzuri. First season with it, and fortunate with the conditions at time of drilling and since, but gone straight into grass, oat and wheat stubble, bean and maize stubble, from nasty clay to stoney sand and been pleased with the drill's performance. What puts some people off it is what others like about it; how customisable/complex it is from the type of point or wing (or no wing) on the front leg and all the different coulter options, to adjusting the hydraulic pressure on the front legs, coulters, and harrow, to altering the depth of the front legs as you go along if you hit a wet patch for example, to the type of press wheel on the coulter, it's a very versatile machine. Negatives would be there's a lot of hydraulic pipework to leak, there's a lot of rubber to puncture, and if you're on heavy clay then if it's wet it'll smear like all the rest, but with the added disadvantage of the consolidation wheels packing the soil down. That said, I remember @B&B Pig Man drilling barley into wet clay with one a couple of years ago and having good results.
Trash clearance is excellent, and seeding depth is spot on. They aren't cheap for sure, but then build quality is a really high standard. Plus prices have gone up across the board for a number of manufacturers, whereas I think Mzuri's have held theirs. I wish I still had a local dealer here in East Anglia but Mzuri are very good to deal with as a firm, and a two year warranty on new machines. Martin is a bit of a legend, to be fair to him.
Trash clearance is excellent, and seeding depth is spot on. They aren't cheap for sure, but then build quality is a really high standard. Plus prices have gone up across the board for a number of manufacturers, whereas I think Mzuri's have held theirs. I wish I still had a local dealer here in East Anglia but Mzuri are very good to deal with as a firm, and a two year warranty on new machines. Martin is a bit of a legend, to be fair to him.
The DTS does have reasonable consolidation after the leg and behind the coulter but Mzuri is best here IME. The flip side of this is a well defined channel that you can't easily roll as the rings run across the untilled ridges. Again, this is common to all strip till drills - if you do choose a Mzuri then do specify the levelling boards that Claydon first ran to try and get as much soil into the trench.
Here was the growing crop from my Mzuri demo in autumn 2015 and the video of the drill running in the same field. The overhead photo doesn't give a good idea of how ridged the soil was (no batter boards fitted to this drill) but this is only photo I kept of the demo.
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- Essex/Herts Border
In what way? That a Claydon would drill through that lot?