Octopost or fence n forget?

[Pistonbroke]

I can assure you the only thing scampole care about is their profit margin .

It's taken 20+ years to get the treatment companies and chemical manufacturers to admit that tanashite doesn't work. You mugs can but this new green pee and they won't need to worry of it works or not for 10 + years until someone starts complaining.

What exactly was the problem with the old tantalising stuff? Our farm road was done in 1980 and we haven't had to replace a single stake. People say it was poisonous but nobody was eating the the bloody stakes

 

[JWL]

I used to work for a quite well known garden fence and quaint garden furniture company. Most of their panels were dipped and their fancy gazebo's were from pressure treated timber. They had emblazoned on their products a 15year guarantee but if you read the small print any cuts or nails and screws put into the wood made the guarantee void.
Such a joke

 

[Pistonbroke]

I used to work for a quite well known garden fence and quaint garden furniture company. Most of their panels were dipped and their fancy gazebo's were from pressure treated timber. They had emblazoned on their products a 15year guarantee but if you read the small print any cuts or nails and screws put into the wood made the guarantee void.
Such a joke

Even then, with a 15 yr guarantee,if they fail in the 14th year,the most you will get back is one year of the purchase price because you've had 14 years of use

 

[David.]

If you were making machined posts, hexagonal or otherwise, which timber would you put in?
I'd use the crap that I couldn't sell any other way.
I wonder if they do too...

 

[Skintagain]

I can assure you the only thing scampole care about is their profit margin .

It's taken 20+ years to get the treatment companies and chemical manufacturers to admit that tanashite doesn't work. You mugs can but this new green pee and they won't need to worry of it works or not for 10 + years until someone starts complaining.

I’m no mug

 

[Ffermer Bach]

What exactly was the problem with the old tantalising stuff? Our farm road was done in 1980 and we haven't had to replace a single stake. People say it was poisonous but nobody was eating the the bloody stakes

I was told, there was a study that showed the old tanalising was poisonous to children, then it was banned in children's play areas etc. The manufacturing companies could not guarantee that the product would not be used in children play areas so they removed the chemicals that were the problem. The legislation I will add were at EU level. However, subsequently it was found that the original study that showed toxicity was inaccurate, a child would have had to have eaten a whole fence post to reach a dose that caused problems, but by this stage the old CCA had been banned and removed from use. I will add that if I was manufacturing posts I would be quite happy if the product that made my posts last 40 years was removed by EU legislation, and replaced by something that meant my product would only last 10 years, as I guess would the forestry producers too.

Now Carbon footprint has become such an important thing, how on earth can we legislate to greatly increase the Carbon footprint? Unless there is some form of lobbying in the mix somewhere too? I bet everyone isn't as tight as me and re uses wire, so metal being one of the highest uses of fossil fuels Carbon footprint increases yet again!

 

[Still Farming]

Guarantee is pro rata type thing allegedly too?
10yr guarantee , rots after 5yrs , half way only 50% paid plus as stated rules regs, small prints or something too apparently???

 

[tepapa]

Guarantee is pro rata type thing allegedly too?
10yr guarantee , rots after 5yrs , half way only 50% paid plus as stated rules regs, small prints or something too apparently???

It's more then just that. You'd need to record which posts where put where,with batch numbers, proof of purchase, pictures of fence erected, warranty registered within a certain time frame after purchase. I don't know of any one that could make a genuine claim 5 years after the installation once posts start rotting.

Or just do what scumpole do and claim an expected lifespan. No warranty or guarantee implied.

 

[tepapa]

What exactly was the problem with the old tantalising stuff? Our farm road was done in 1980 and we haven't had to replace a single stake. People say it was poisonous but nobody was eating the the bloody stakes

Nothing at all.

 

[Pistonbroke]

Nothing at all.

Was it supposedly arsenic? People used to be prescribed it in small amounts and dad knew a stockman at a pedigree Hereford herd where they put it in the bull's feed

 

[Willie adie]

Guarantee is pro rata type thing allegedly too?
10yr guarantee , rots after 5yrs , half way only 50% paid plus as stated rules regs, small prints or something too apparently???

And do they pay for the removal of rotten post, taking back to seller, taking replacement back and putting in ground .
Do they f###

 

[nails]

Seems like we have gone backwards as i have a few cleft oak piles still standing after 40 years, no treatment , cut on the farm or just up the road, Same with some oak 4x4 posts that are now 60 years old and still standing . Virtually all the Sleeper strainers that were put in here in the 60,s and 70,s are good for another 20 years or so. Same with the old High Tensile smooth wire, totally different product to some of the new stuff