Old skool Banner lane

[trebornella]

Interesting video of Millat tractor production in Pakistan. Just like Banner Lane 50 years ago, but without the West Midlands accents

 

[Exfarmer]

Interesting video of Millat tractor production in Pakistan. Just like Banner Lane 50 years ago, but without the West Midlands accents

think you will find plenty of those accents in the West Midlands today

 

[Cowabunga]

Interesting video of Millat tractor production in Pakistan. Just like Banner Lane 50 years ago, but without the West Midlands accents

From this you can deduce that there will be no shortage of ‘genuine’ spare parts and major components for 100 and 200 series tractors until they get to about 100 years or older. Trim parts and for 300 series 12x12 and speed shift models, not so sure, but they do share many parts with these Millat models.

 

[Farmer_Joe]

Makes you giggle how many of these their churning out with no emissions stuff on at all, we truely are the fools

 

[Cowabunga]

Makes you giggle how many of these their churning out with no emissions stuff on at all, we truely are the fools

They’re not churning them out in anything like the numbers that Banner Lane did at anywhere near its prime in the 1960’s and they are rather small engines in a very big country. It’s hard for today’s UK born generation, GenX or Millennials, to imagine that the whole world was fed using almost exclusively 45 to 75hp tractors like this well within living memory.

 

[Lowland1]

They’re not churning them out in anything like the numbers that Banner Lane did at anywhere near its prime in the 1960’s and they are rather small engines in a very big country. It’s hard for today’s UK born generation, GenX or Millennials, to imagine that the whole world was fed using almost exclusively 45 to 75hp tractors like this well within living memory.

They supply them worldwide in Kenya a 240 built in Pakistan will cost less than £10,000

 

[Sharpy]

They supply them worldwide in Kenya a 240 built in Pakistan will cost less than £10,000

Do you think they are a similar quality to a banner lane built tractor?

 

[Lowland1]

Do you think they are a similar quality to a banner lane built tractor?

Probably not but i don’t think those machines were as well built as modern tractors either.

 

[yellowbelly]

It’s hard for today’s UK born generation, GenX or Millennials, to imagine that the whole world was fed using almost exclusively 45 to 75hp tractors like this well within living memory.

.......and nearly all 2wd.....and to get them to the other side of the field, you had to hold that round thing in the middle that steered the front wheels

 

[Cowabunga]

.......and nearly all 2wd.....and to get them to the other side of the field, you had to hold that round thing in the middle that steered the front wheels

The debates of the day were about whether 4wd was justified [most said not] and whether synchromesh was as durable as sliding spur gear or constant mesh. A bit earlier and whether farmers could afford safety cabs or could be better with just a roll bar. Then came the debate about cab noise of course.

Pakistan and India don’t seem to have reached the roll bar verses cab debate yet, let alone think about synchromesh and change on the go such as Multi-Power

 

[serf]

The banner lane factory was certainly a better sight than what's there now ....

Banner Brook slums is it's local name now ...

 

[Lowland1]

I’ve never had anything to do with the Pakistani Masseys however i bought a lot of Polish 261s for the people i worked for when i first came to Kenya and the farms we ran in Sudan had Turkish 290s when we took them over. All were perfectly fine.

 

[Highway star]

All testament to to old engineers! A timeless design.
They've never come up with a better stock farm tractor since

 

[trebornella]

I like the way they start out building a basic 100 series tractor. Did they set up the crownwheel and pinion? , no aux hydraulics, did they fit the stand pipe when fitting the top cover? . Hydraulic adjustment, if the link arms go up and down thats good enough. Mechanical steering boxes, was expecting to see the diesel tank on top of the engine, and then suddenly it turns into a 300 series.

 

[Still Farming]

I think the old school banner lane gang would definitely have something to say too?????

 

[Farmer_Joe]

I like the way they start out building a basic 100 series tractor. Did they set up the crownwheel and pinion? , no aux hydraulics, did they fit the stand pipe when fitting the top cover? . Hydraulic adjustment, if the link arms go up and down thats good enough. Mechanical steering boxes, was expecting to see the diesel tank on top of the engine, and then suddenly it turns into a 300 series.

I did giggle and thought thank f**k they have a proper orbital steering instead of rods like old db and 165 etc!

 

[ford 7810]

The 385 just looks like a modern 185 ,but there was a tractor with a big turbo on and three cylinder tractors too. It is indeed Banner lane they were and looks like still are a bloody good tractors

 

[How much]

I watched that video last week and although it was similar to banner lane in some respects they did not appear to make anything it was just about entirely an assembly process .
I remember at banner lane in the late 70's early 80's they where making loads of stuff ,rows and rows of laths , milling machines etc gears and shafts all in production then hardening gears and shaft in furnaces etc , machining castings probably probably making them as well although i did not visit a foundry on site but the amount of true production as opposed to assembly that was happening on site was amazing compared to the norm of assembly these days.

 

[ford 7810]

I watched that video last week and although it was similar to banner lane in some respects they did not appear to make anything it was just about entirely an assembly process .
I remember at banner lane in the late 70's early 80's they where making loads of stuff ,rows and rows of laths , milling machines etc gears and shafts all in production then hardening gears and shaft in furnaces etc , machining castings probably probably making them as well although i did not visit a foundry on site but the amount of true production as opposed to assembly that was happening on site was amazing compared to the norm of assembly these days.

Yes I remember the big machine shops always interesting The International Harvester plant at Doncaster had their own foundry when I first went around it . maybe them fellas in open toed sandals working on the floor make all that stuff now.

 

[daveydiesel1]

I watched that video last week and although it was similar to banner lane in some respects they did not appear to make anything it was just about entirely an assembly process .
I remember at banner lane in the late 70's early 80's they where making loads of stuff ,rows and rows of laths , milling machines etc gears and shafts all in production then hardening gears and shaft in furnaces etc , machining castings probably probably making them as well although i did not visit a foundry on site but the amount of true production as opposed to assembly that was happening on site was amazing compared to the norm of assembly these days.

To get that kind of thing ud be better going to the zetor foundry and then the likes of zf,carraro,gima etc