One oil!

[Half Pipe]

So if you run a International and it has it’s specific oil in the backend, you go and borrow or use multiple trailers, tip them numerous times, etc then what’s gonna be in it at the end!..???

If your lucky better quality oil, but if your unlucky it could be !

 

[feilding]

Using the wrong oil can be very expensive. Given up using universal oil years ago. Not worth risking the damage that can occur. I always get correct oil code for every use.

 

[Mc115reed]

Using the wrong oil can be very expensive. Given up using universal oil years ago. Not worth risking the damage that can occur. I always get correct oil code for every use.

Do you have a machine for every tractor then? Never borrow the neighbours trailer? Soon as you tip a trailer your doing an oil change

 

[bobk]

Do you have a machine for every tractor then? Never borrow the neighbours trailer? Soon as you tip a trailer your doing an oil change

That's very true , my fastrac tips on 46 hy , others on hft , worrying

 

[feilding]

Do you have a machine for every tractor then? Never borrow the neighbours trailer? Soon as you tip a trailer your doing an oil change

Used to pull other people's trailers. Not any more. Used to change backend oil and filters every 500 hrs. But now leave it to 1000 hrs. Never any longer. Engine oil and filter every 250hrs max.

 

[wilfholme]

Surely if you tip a trailer your oil goes into the ram and comes back when it is lowered. Unless you tip , pull the pipe out and then attempt to plug in to a different tractor!

 

[bobk]

Surely if you tip a trailer your oil goes into the ram and comes back when it is lowered. Unless you tip , pull the pipe out and then attempt to plug in to a different tractor!

What about the oil in the pipe

 

[Lakes Nash]

Surely if you tip a trailer your oil goes into the ram and comes back when it is lowered. Unless you tip , pull the pipe out and then attempt to plug in to a different tractor!

so what happens when it fills the ram body! mixes

 

[snipe]

When the trailer is down their is still oil in the pipes and a bit in the ram, this will mix with the tractor oil when tipped and lowered. Double acting rams for the back door will be full of oil in any position.

 

[ianm641]

Do oil companies have reps that come out and go through the service manuals to see what can be done?

i think morris lubricants do

 

[Cjm]

Ring Morris oils tech department. Give them a list of what machines you have, and they will tell you what you need to stock

 

[essexpete]

I use the same grade UTTO in a Doncaster Case IH and a Basildon Ford. Does not seem to have been a problem for many years.

 

[yellow belly]

We use same oils in case and new Holland
All from Witham oil

right grade for each application is essential
A hydrostatic system with non hv46 oil will not last 100 hours

 

[TripleSix]

When the trailer is down their is still oil in the pipes and a bit in the ram, this will mix with the tractor oil when tipped and lowered. Double acting rams for the back door will be full of oil in any position.

It's not enough to worry about.

Don't worry about it

 

[kevindb880]

Anyone dare to use Withams or another brand in a brand new machine thats under warranty?

 

[Courier]

At the end of the day any oil is better than no oil

If you are short for a top up then I would agree - just don’t do an engine oil change with something completely different.
On many modern engines the different oils specified are as much about not damaging the emission control systems than lubricating the bearing surfaces.

 

[KB6930]

Anyone dare to use Withams or another brand in a brand new machine thats under warranty?

Why wouldn't you? As long as it's the right spec . We stopped using JD oil here years ago we used to be scared to run anything else in the autopower boxes but they've been fine over many 0000's of hours now

 

[Bobthebuilder]

Anyone dare to use Withams or another brand in a brand new machine thats under warranty?

Why not, probably same oil just in a different drum

 

[Finn farmer]

Why wouldn't you? As long as it's the right spec . We stopped using JD oil here years ago we used to be scared to run anything else in the autopower boxes but they've been fine over many 0000's of hours now

We use Ambra in our JD 6630 and Case Maxxum 135 Cvx. Now that we have the JD 6430 Premium Ap we had to do bit of thinking. But our old JD mechanic said that the Ambra is good for Autopower too, since it is "higher grade" than what JD suggested to use back in 2012.

So Ambra for rear end, Neste for engine and 46S for excavator and self propelled feeder hydraulics.

 

[Cowabunga]

We have 6 different tractor makes. All different ages from new to old. We have part used oil drums everywhere all different stuff. Is it possible to get one engine oil and one backend oil that will do them all?

Yes.
Probably.

Get the 10W/40 or 15W/40 oil to the latest long drain specification that suits current tractors with cats and selective catalytic reduction [Adblue] and DPF [particulate filters]. This will be suitable for all engines, old and new.

For transmissions a 10W30 or 10W/40 UTTO or Super Universal will do all transmissions with wet clutches/brakes and CVT’s.

You may need some EP oil for front axles and hubs on some brands [others are fine with UTTO or SUTO] and maybe some rear reduction gears, for Fendt for instance. If you have any with limited slip diffs on the front axle that need EP gear oils, get stuff with LS specification because these can be used with or without LSD’s.

This information is generally correct but there may be some exceptions that I’m not aware of. If so they are very rare.