Openreach over reaching their authority

[Highland Mule]

I’d like to here the plausible explanation as to how you pull it out accidentally

Subsoiler on a dark evening. My tractor worklights aren't great, but are perfectly good enough for field use in an empty field.

 

[sixrow]

Any one know what the payment for duct per meter is just stopped them going up the side of my road to another property 2500 meters.

 

[Nearly]

Any one know what the payment for duct per meter is just stopped them going up the side of my road to another property 2500 meters.

Not enough!

 

[sixrow]

Not enough!

Per meter?

 

[D14]

The only issue in reality, is by ripping out and removing the cable and duct, @Nearly could be accused of criminal damage, even if the duct should not be there...

No BT have done the first criminal damage.

 

[TheTallGuy]

No BT have done the first criminal damage.

Unfortunately it's not that simple...

 

[D14]

Unfortunately it's not that simple...

It was for me. As said above we won in court twice. From what the OP has said there was no written agreement. The verbal agreement has not been adhered to and they have caused criminal damage over part of his families private land. However the verbal agreement could never of happened unless documented so they have just put a phone line in without written permission or way leave.

 

[Nearly]

It was for me. As said above we won in court twice. From what the OP has said there was no written agreement. The verbal agreement has not been adhered to and they have caused criminal damage over part of his families private land. However the verbal agreement could never of happened unless documented so they have just put a phone line in without written permission or way leave.

Wayleave was negotiated for 2 years.
Route, depth, backfill, etc.
All ignored.

If we were keeping the property then the cable wouldn't be underground now!
I have some pretty poor forklift drivers and digger drivers.
There is a history of vandalism and theft of wires locally.

Many options.

 

[Forever Fendt]

They have been fecking around with this for 2 years. I have regular emails saying it is ongoing. They have all my details, the agreed route and the specifications, conditions etc.

They were last coming in March before the grass started growing. I agreed and told them to let me know and I'd be there to show them the drains and repair them if necessary.
This is all for the benefit for our neighbour who can't think beyond BT. He saw the work happening and couldn't be bothered to let me know either. The neighbour relationship is being recalibrated and the price of a piece of land he wishes to buy has just increased by 10%. Bless him.

We have made alternative arrangements for internet and calls because for 20 years the thin piece of copper hasn't been fit to hold conversations on.

We're not BT customers. f**k 'em!

Recalibrate relationship with neighbours

 

[TheTallGuy]

It was for me. As said above we won in court twice. From what the OP has said there was no written agreement. The verbal agreement has not been adhered to and they have caused criminal damage over part of his families private land. However the verbal agreement could never of happened unless documented so they have just put a phone line in without written permission or way leave.

There's a big difference between taking Openreach to court and taking the law into one's own hands.

 

[Grouse]

The crime is in getting caught !!!!!

DON’t !!!!!!

 

[Tarw Coch]

The crime is in getting caught !!!!!

DON’t !!!!!!

Don’t get caught
Don’t leave any evidence
Don’t admit to anything

 

[steveR]

The crime is in getting caught !!!!!

DON’t !!!!!!

The 11th Commandment....

 

[Nearly]

2 years later.
Property sold.
New owners aware of fibre connection but not exact route.
What's the likely result of them installing new septic tank and going through cable that isn't on the route that they have on their official Openreach paperwork that I gave them with the deeds?
Just asking.

 

[Exfarmer]

2 years later.
Property sold.
New owners aware of fibre connection but not exact route.
What's the likely result of them installing new septic tank and going through cable that isn't on the route that they have on their official Openreach paperwork that I gave them with the deeds?
Just asking.

glad you have finally resolved the issue and your heart rate must finally have fallen
I had an issue many years ago BT as it was then installed a new cable for our village through what was to be my garden in the old barn I converted.
As was done in those times no mention of wayleaves etc, just a visit from the engineer and a promise that it would go at least 18 inches deep .
I used the farm rotator to level out the job for my new lawn after they were finished and wrapped the new cable up good and proper.
BT engineer was out very promptly and set to charge me a huge sum for ruining the job and cutting the village off.
I told him I was expecting BT to pay for my time stripping the rotavator clear.
They did make a proper job next time but never did hear anything after

 

[Netherfield]

glad you have finally resolved the issue and your heart rate must finally have fallen
I had an issue many years ago BT as it was then installed a new cable for our village through what was to be my garden in the old barn I converted.
As was done in those times no mention of wayleaves etc, just a visit from the engineer and a promise that it would go at least 18 inches deep .
I used the farm rotator to level out the job for my new lawn after they were finished and wrapped the new cable up good and proper.
BT engineer was out very promptly and set to charge me a huge sum for ruining the job and cutting the village off.
I told him I was expecting BT to pay for my time stripping the rotavator clear.
They did make a proper job next time but never did hear anything after

You should have told then you had an 80" rotavator, wouldn't have understood what it meant, but would have made them think hard.