Options after roundup

[farmer dave136]

As an all arable farm practicing direct drilling what are the options after roundup ? Are there herbicide alternatives?

 

[farmerm]

Retire...

 

[farmerm]

Or hire... I have a stack of hoes in the barn from the pre-herbicide days...

 

[farmer dave136]

It’s only a matter of time now there banning it in Europe and they’ll never take our products if we still use it

 

[Will Blackburn]

It’s only a matter of time now there banning it in Europe and they’ll never take our products if we still use it

Don't worry about that, we will be importing if glyphosate gets banned.

 

[Simon C]

Rewilding, or let the sea back in.

 

[B'o'B]

Give up on long term conservation ag and dig the plough out of the nettles after 20 odd years.
With one hand the government and EU offer grants to buy no-till drills and with the other threaten to ban the chemistry that enables its reliable use. Joined up thinking at its best!

 

[Clive]

It’s only a matter of time now there banning it in Europe and they’ll never take our products if we still use it

will they not take USA or eastern European product either ....... I suspect they may be short of food and loose there food and other export markets if they don't

 

[MF 168]

There'll be something else brought out to do the same job only slightly less effective and a right bit more expensive.

 

[Clive]

If it did happen I think we would have to return to rotational ploughing - what a disaster that would be for the environment

Unless prices increased significantly there would be no point so I would probably stop producing food at all and put the farm into environmental schemes and focus on other businesses

 

[Clive]

There'll be something else brought out to do the same job only slightly less effective and a right bit more expensive.

but this is the more likely scenario so I'm loosing no sleep

 

[teslacoils]

Liquid N through a flat fan where cropping and legislation allow, although it won't kill the actual plant.

 

[michael N123]

Buy some animals put your farm into a rotation and buy a nice plow

 

[spikeislander]

I was just about to ask this but as a full cultivation leper I thought I would be cast out !!
Just updating drill to another dare I say vaderstad [emoji51].
If glysophate gets banned I think we will be a similar system to now plus wide shallow weeding type machines possibly investing in gps interow weeding ?
I would like to consider dd but with the uncertainty around roundup I’m reluctant to buy into a system that will struggle and to leave one that may come back ?
This isn’t a question of which is best more how do you guys seriously think you would approach a full ban ?

 

[Bury the Trash]

Buy a no till drill for 75k today , sell for 5k tom orrow, ?


Actually come to think of it now is the best time to stock up on ploughs ..... before they go up....

 

[Fish]

Buy some animals put your farm into a rotation and buy a nice plow

In a vegetarian world, I wonder who is gonna eat all these extra animals.

 

[Fish]

Buy a no till drill for 75k today , sell for 5k tom orrow, ?


Actually come to think of it now is the best time to stock up on ploughs ..... before they go up....

Just buy one that can do both, .

 

[SilliamWhale]

Not sure. I may try and go into holistic planned grazing and grab loads of environmental grants or I may just rent out for spuds/ Caulis/ maize/ grass just to the highest bidder and sell my kit. I don't think I'll go into ploughing but maybe could find a machine to do multiple shallow tills - but to up my costs at a time when the prices are low and the SFP looks lower isn't the most sensible.

Perhaps an alternative knockdown can be developed but I'm damned if I'm going to be the guinea pig for it by risking costs.

I will have time to protest about roundup ready imports then as well too.

The whole thing is very silly. I'm more than willing to entertain roundup stewardship but the ban is way OTT.

 

[spikeislander]

My personal position leaves me staying put and watching I think [emoji848].
All machines paid for all in very good order despite being un fashionable ploughs presses etc so it would be expensive to change .
Plus I would lose several customers I do contract work for so I feel rightly or wrongly sitting still for a few years is the less risky option?
And make more investments in something outside of ag?

 

[spikeislander]

It is going to be a blood bath if it goes I’m sure . Interesting to see how France and Germany get on ? At least we have them to test the water .
There’s always a challenge which keeps the job enjoyable and I’m sure it looked like the end is nigh when burning was banned