Our country has gone fudged

[Ffermer Bach]

Just phoning a contractor, he said, got to go, Police have just arrived, will call again when they have gone. He called back, umbilical spreading slurry, someone called the police to say, slurry being pumped into the river. Police had to attend to check. What has happened to this country, when everyone is busy minding everyone else's business, unless it's someone being mugged on the street, then they are happy to look the other way. The organic inspector said that the new NVZ rules in Wales apply from this autumn coming. But people have watched slurry spreading this winter just gone, and phoned Natural Resources Wales to complain, NRW then had to visit each farm to check, even though nothing wrong had been done!

 

[Still Farming]

Just the start of it all.
Everyone watching and minding everyone's else's business these days.

 

[PSQ]

Looks like the UK has turned to the type of country that encourages Soviet style denunciations, informing on anyone who you disagree with and the 'state' playing its part like a joker in the pack.

 

[uztrac]

Import third world nonsense, expect its behaviour to follow

 

[steveR]

Just the start of it all.
Everyone watching and minding everyone's else's business these days.

Like being in East Germany in teh early 70s

 

[onesiedale]

Just phoning a contractor, he said, got to go, Police have just arrived, will call again when they have gone. He called back, umbilical spreading slurry, someone called the police to say, slurry being pumped into the river. Police had to attend to check. What has happened to this country, when everyone is busy minding everyone else's business, unless it's someone being mugged on the street, then they are happy to look the other way. The organic inspector said that the new NVZ rules in Wales apply from this autumn coming. But people have watched slurry spreading this winter just gone, and phoned Natural Resources Wales to complain, NRW then had to visit each farm to check, even though nothing wrong had been done!

sadly, it's fully understandable.
Recent media attention of both water boards and chicken units has meant that a reaction from a member of the public who is opposed to water boards polluting our rivers, can easily assume that an umbillical set-up will be doing similar.

The real issue is that our environment has been abused by some big companies and farmers are the easy target..

 

[Kidds]

Is your ground not waterlogged already and 15mm+ rain forecast for the next day or so?
I am sure you won't like me saying it but your slurry is going to end up in the river isn't it?
Happens all the time around here, it would save a lot of diesel if they just pumped it straight into the rivers as it's going to end up there anyway.

If you somehow have dry ground that won't run off into a stream/river then I apologise for suggesting otherwise.

 

[Castle Farm]

I remember as a kid spending hours everyday playing in the River Severn. After I had kids I taught them to swim in the Wye that ran through the farm. Now I wouldn't go in either wearing waders. Our rivers are sewers.

 

[Jsmith2211]

and yet the police dont bother to respond to real crimes...

 

[Still Farming]

and yet the police dont bother to respond to real crimes...

And still received over £510 in our Council tax and never see a copper???

 

[Poorbuthappy]

Is your ground not waterlogged already and 15mm+ rain forecast for the next day or so?
I am sure you won't like me saying it but your slurry is going to end up in the river isn't it?
Happens all the time around here, it would save a lot of diesel if they just pumped it straight into the rivers as it's going to end up there anyway.

If you somehow have dry ground that won't run off into a stream/river then I apologise for suggesting otherwise.

Inclined to agree.
Neighbours out with umbilical yesterday.
11mm in gauge this morning, lot more forecast for tonight.
I know their's is relatively dry ground, but is anywhere dry currently?

 

[toquark]

The price for living in a bureaucracy.

My latest hero is the new Argentinian president who just culled 70,000 state employees and reduced the ministries from 22 to 8. My man.

The UK needs to follow suit, but it will be a long long way off. Things will have to get a lot worse (like Argentina’s 25 year stagflation) before a truly reforming candidate will be allowed to govern.

 

[Jsmith2211]

And still received over £510 in our Council tax and never see a copper???

When I bothered to call them they showed up and threatened to arrest me... It's a long story but I was very much not in the wrong! I always carry something like a hammer in the tractor with me whenever i'm working near to town now just in case I need to defend myself as I know the chocolate teapot police will not come if i require them. Very sorry state of affairs that I even have to think about that but there you go.

 

[hoff135]

If the police show up turn the rain gun on them

 

[stroller]

When I bothered to call them they showed up and threatened to arrest me... It's a long story but I was very much not in the wrong! I always carry something like a hammer in the tractor with me whenever i'm working near to town now just in case I need to defend myself as I know the chocolate teapot police will not come if i require them. Very sorry state of affairs that I even have to think about that but there you go.

Is that bridgy or yeovile?

 

[Goweresque]

Looks like the UK has turned to the type of country that encourages Soviet style denunciations, informing on anyone who you disagree with and the 'state' playing its part like a joker in the pack.

It turned about 4 years ago, or rather it took Covid to make it obvious how society had changed.

Often as a kid I used to be amazed how societies on the other side of the Iron Curtain behaved, with so many people happy to inform on their friends, neighbours and even family. Covid has shown me that such people exist in every society, and will do it for nothing more than the moral superiority it affords them. In order to run a dictatorship you don't really need to have heavy handed surveillance on everyone, just make it easy for people to inform on others in return for nothing more than a few brownie points with the authorities. The snitches will do all your hard work for you, and there will always be plenty of them.

 

[hoff135]

Said it before on here, I think a lot of folk have been radicalised by the whole net zero/ rewinding agenda, they are completely and utterly brainwashed and are now becoming more militant.

 

[glasshouse]

Every pri.ck is an expert now

 

[Hilly]

Few years ago carbon was a word rarely uttered, now so many experts know all about it where it comes from whos to blame what it dose , i must have been out the day they educated them all on carbon ..

 

[Jsmith2211]

Is that bridgy or yeovile?

wellington. becoming just as bad