Parts Supply

[Hindsight]

this could suddenly become a very desirable feature !

I think we can keep most stuff we run going ourselves, software issues and diagnosis can usually be sorted remotely as well

sprayer is the biggest concern, very important machine here yet one sensor could stop it if we couldn’t get a replacement or find a work around bodge !

When I was at college many decades ago our livestock lecturer had in his younger days worked for the Foreign and Colonial office in Africa on Commonwealth extensification projects.

One tale he told was a salutary tale of over complication. He had been involved as a junior member in a project to introduce higher yielding milk cows in a very underdeveloped third world country. As part of the project London sent carefully packed in crates a milking parlour, after all they were being introduced in GB at the time to replace byres.

A missive (telegram in those days) was sent to London by his boss saying 'send buckets and three legged stools' The lesson was not lost on me - KISS. I now find I cannot even start, let alone move a modern tractor. But I frequently see a machine parked up for want of a sensor or software issue. Progress I know.

 

[marshtowers]

Kramp Group is still operating. Warehouses operating normally, sales team are all working from home, but are fully contactable. There are good stocks available (except PPE), Direct deliveries are possible, and Kramp-Online customers have online connectivity via their dealer of choice.

 

[Steevo]

With a lot parts it's suprising what cross references then cross references again and so on... I'm cross referencing stuff and sourcing stuff every day. I'd happily help point someone in the right direction if it would help.

You could start your a whole thread on that......and then could make it a game where others could try and beat you for speed/price!

 

[Steevo]

Kramp Group is still operating. Warehouses operating normally, sales team are all working from home, but are fully contactable. There are good stocks available (except PPE), Direct deliveries are possible, and Kramp-Online customers have online connectivity via their dealer of choice.

It's times like this that the convoluted supply chains really start to fall apart i.e. farmer orders via dealer, orders via kramp, parts made by xyz, then it all goes back down the chain again as the part is delivered stage by stage.

There's a lot to be said for direct business-business system - parts ordered online, delivered direct. A bit like Farm Marketplace, a lot like Amazon.

 

[Hilly]

this could suddenly become a very desirable feature !

I think we can keep most stuff we run going ourselves, software issues and diagnosis can usually be sorted remotely as well

sprayer is the biggest concern, very important machine here yet one sensor could stop it if we couldn’t get a replacement or find a work around bodge !

The price of good classics has been rising rapidly for long time , the desire has been here for ages .

 

[ridger]

Bit more in depth List of Open to Close

Outdoor market still ok then

 

[Clive]

It's times like this that the convoluted supply chains really start to fall apart i.e. farmer orders via dealer, orders via kramp, parts made by xyz, then it all goes back down the chain again as the part is delivered stage by stage.

There's a lot to be said for direct business-business system - parts ordered online, delivered direct. A bit like Farm Marketplace, a lot like Amazon.

agree, far to many layers to complicate things and add costs

why don’t krampe etc just sell direct online ? .......... politics that’s why I suspect

 

[JP1]

Covid19 is a cover for some companies (many are "National" names) with shocking levels of performance and customer service

I am an employee myself but I'd love to name and shame a few.

 

[marshtowers]

agree, far to many layers to complicate things and add costs

why don’t krampe etc just sell direct online ? .......... politics that’s why I suspect

Answer: Supporting the dealer network. Farmers need their dealers, dealers need solid & reliable supply chain. It's not complicated. Easy access, farmers can sign up to Kramp-Online
http://ow.ly/qxwa50yTZsE

 

[Hesston4860s]

Answer: Supporting the dealer network. Farmers need their dealers, dealers need solid & reliable supply chain. It's not complicated. Easy access, farmers can sign up to Kramp-Online
http://ow.ly/qxwa50yTZsE

Unfortunately I’ve tried that and none of them support that option !, I’ve quite often wanted to get stuff from kramp for the Ag engineering that I do alongside my contracting business. But I don’t have the time to ride round the county getting prices etc so order from elsewhere unfortunately.

 

[Clive]

Covid19 is a cover for some companies (many are "National" names) with shocking levels of performance and customer service

I am an employee myself but I'd love to name and shame a few.

I agree

Currently being told a buy a shed erector (MJ Barrett) who was contracted to build us a dividing wall so a new tenant could move in week 1 March that the galvanisers have closed so they can't supply ......... this despite the fact that frame should have been built and galvanised in February ready for the agreed installation date ......... moved on form the excuse that no insulated sheet was available

Staff and even the business owner don't return calls, or emails despite constant promises, have spent fortunes with them on the past but never again ....... its not c19 to blame as all this was going on before any restrictions etc ....its' just unprofessional crap service and now c19 is a even better excuse

 

[Clive]

Answer: Supporting the dealer network. Farmers need their dealers, dealers need solid & reliable supply chain. It's not complicated. Easy access, farmers can sign up to Kramp-Online
http://ow.ly/qxwa50yTZsE

its more complex than it needs to be, it would be a lot easier of farmers could all buy direct and importantly pay the same lower price, in such a transaction a physical dealer offer nothing other than additional cost in his margin

We do need a good machinery dealer network to support equipment but that a very different product set and customer to what Krampe / Sparex etc would be supplying. Service and input / product supply should not be seen as the same thing, there needs to be a lot more decoupling in the future, we were seeing this happen anyway but I think c19 will seriously decelerate that

 

[ashmore]

I've heard similar reports on Barrett's. Buildings not finished properly. Mrs A was talking to a customer of hers who has had a lot of buildings from them, and their waiting for cladding etc. And were told it'll be 6mths.
We tried ordering a building for harvest, a month ago, and Tilkes are booked for 6mths also.
Ended up getting one made locally. He said no problems with galvanize. And should be started in the next few weeks.....or perhaps not.

 

[Steevo]

I agree

Currently being told a buy a shed erector (MJ Barrett) who was contracted to build us a dividing wall so a new tenant could move in week 1 March that the galvanisers have closed so they can't supply ......... this despite the fact that frame should have been built and galvanised in February ready for the agreed installation date ......... moved on form the excuse thta no insulted sheet was available

Staff and even the business owner don't return calls, or emails despite constant promises, have spent fortunes with them on the past but never again ....... its not c19 to blame as all this was going on before any restrictions etc ....its' just unprofessional crap service and no c19 is a even better excuse

I thought you were very impressed with them previously - your last (garage/workshop) was done by them IIRC and you were singing their praises very highly.

 

[Steevo]

its more complex than it needs to be, it would be a lot easier of farmers could all buy direct and importantly pay the same lower price, in such a transaction a physical dealer offer nothing other than additional cost in his margin

We do need a good machinery dealer network to support equipment but that a very different product set and customer to what Krampe / Sparex etc would be supplying. Service and input / product supply should not be seen as the same thing, there needs to be a lot more decoupling in the future, we were seeing this happen anyway but I think c19 will seriously decelerate that

Local farm supply store can do Sparex parts because they could get a trade account. Seemed mad to me that they don't go direct.

 

[ashmore]

Barrett's are telling you porkies, I've heard this morning galvanizers are stopping open.

 

[Clive]

I thought you were very impressed with them previously - your last (garage/workshop) was done by them IIRC and you were singing their praises very highly.

I was impressed with the quality of their work but I can not deal with people who don't return multiple calls / emails and don't tell me the truth when they do and don't turn up when they said they would (all of this long before c19 restrictions) They have cost me a LOT of money now a new tenant can nit move it because of their complete lack of professionalism

I had a 400K budget new shed planned to be built this year ...... they will not be getting that job thats for sure

 

[Clive]

Barrett's are telling you porkies, I've heard this morning galvanizers are stopping open.

They have been talking boillocks for the last 2 months frankly - i know when people are not being straight, C19 is just the latest excuse from them

 

[Steevo]

I had a 400K budget new shed planned to be built this year ...... they will not be getting that job thats for sure

Wow, that's a very high spec shed! I did an insulated 10ksq.ft last year and all in it was nearly half that cost.

 

[Clive]

Wow, that's a very high spec shed! I did an insulated 10ksq.ft last year and all in it was nearly half that cost.

it’s not just the shed, it a large concrete yard around it, all services, fencing, auto gates ground works, base, water, power, waste, drainage to a balancing pool quite a long way away etc with a 4 k mez and some internal walls and doors, led lighting etc. Budget is actually 350 but it will creep so space factored in. All to industrial spec