What will a 70 plate ranger limited be on dual and motorway ?
Pickup speed limits
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Johnnyboxer
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yes, l200s have always been the lightest pickups. (??build quality??
)farmerm
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4 pages in and I am not sure any of us know what the speed limits are for our vehicle! If the camera database knows our speed limits surely there must be a tool for drivers to access this to look up our own vehicles?
So I can do 70mph on motorways in our old L200 ?
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Had it six years and 60k miles , only changed the front callipers and general servicingyes, l200s have always been the lightest pickups. (??build quality??
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Google it, I found two sites that explain it, my isuzu is fine to do the same speed as cars, one contained a list of pickups by weight the other by class of vehicle
farmerm
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I did and found 2 different answers
what I have yet to find is my V5 which has mysteriously disappeared 
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What are UK pickups speed limits?
Many pickups - especially popular double-cab pickups with four proper doors and five seats - count as dual-purpose vehicles, and can be driven as quickly as a car.But you must check the unladen weight. For some high-spec pickups this will be greater than 2,040kg, which stops them being dual-purpose and restricts them to the same speeds as vans.
For example, Toyota always advises Hilux pickup buyers to abide by van speed limit rules and most Ford Rangers will be too heavy to travel at the same speeds as cars as well. The Isuzu D-Max, however, is light enough to count as a dual-purpose vehicle in every specification.
Important note: single-cab pickup trucks (those with only two doors and no second row of seats) without four-wheel drive are not considered dual-purpose, and can only drive at the same speed as vans.
>> Find out more about the best pickups in the UK
What are the speed limits for vans with side windows?
UK speed limit laws are not very clear when it comes to vans that are designed to carry passengers as well as goods.Kombi (or combi) vans, double-cab vans and crew vans feature a second row of seats behind the driver. They can qualify for dual-purpose status in the same way as pickups - but only if they meet all the necessary requirements.
As such, they must have side windows and rear windows (not all crew vans come with them as standard), they must have the correct ratio of passenger space to load area, and they must have an unladen weight lower than 2,040kg (2.04 tonnes).
You can also look for 'window van' on the V5C logbook - but this will only make a difference if the van meets all the other requirements.
If you do feel you’ve been wrongly accused of speeding in a dual-purpose van, our best advice is to remain polite, explain your position clearly, and be prepared to appeal at a later date.
Aftermarket campervan conversions can often fall foul of the same speeding confusion, but you can find out more about this in our full guide to UK campervan speed limits.
How to avoid getting caught speeding in a van
If you're worried about getting caught speeding in your van, here are a few top tips to keep in mind.1. Pay attention - look out for changes in the speed limit, understand what speeds you're allowed to go in the van on different roads
2. Use cruise control - cruise control is great for avoiding 'speed creep' as it keeps the vehicle at a constant speed. This is especially useful for roads covered by average speed cameras, which measure your speed between two points rather than at a single one
3. Use a speed limiter - these can be fixed or manually set. The latter is a good alternative to cruise control, as it can be adjusted but won't allow the van to travel faster than the speed you've selected, and the van will still slow down when you take your foot off the accelerator (which cruise control won't)
4. DON'T rely on sat-navs - satellite-navigation devices sometimes have built-in speed limit displays, but we've found that these are often out of date and don't reflect the real limit, especially for commercial vehicles. Never rely on them
5. DON'T rely on dashboard displays - some new vans also have cameras that read road signs and display them on the dashboard. Unfortunately, these sometimes make mistakes, which can range from failing to spot a new limit to reading an incorrect number off the back of a truck and telling you the speed limit on the A14 is 90mph (this actually happened to us).
6. Be wary of 'intelligent' adaptive cruise control - some adaptive cruise control systems will now automatically adjust the cruise control speed based on road signs read by the on-board camera. Again, the problems come if the camera makes a mistake, and starts accelerating the vehicle when the speed limit hasn't actually changed (this happened to us while travelling on a road covered by average speed cameras - oh, how we laughed...)
Van speed limit FAQs
What's the speed limit when towing a trailer?
If you're towing a trailer with your van or pickup the only difference in speed limit comes on the motorway, where you're limited to 60mph instead of 70mph.This is exactly the same speed limit for cars towing trailers.
Articulated vehicles are also subject to the 60mph motorway speed limit restriction.
What's the difference between a motorway and a dual carriageway?
What is a dual carriageway? In the UK Highway Code, a dual carriageway is a road with a central reservation (barrier) between the two sides. Usually they have two lanes in either direction, but sometimes only one and sometimes more than two.Regardless, the speed limit on a dual carriageway is just 60mph for vans, not the 70mph that cars are allowed to travel at. You can tell you're on a dual carriageway by the main road signs for junctions, which will have a green background rather than the blue background used on motorway signs.
A motorway is a type of dual carriageway, but they have more particular requirements. Motorways usually have a hard shoulder (though newer 'smart motorways' have done away with this in favour of refuge areas), but more importantly they have very specific entrances and exits (junctions) that are always numbered.
Designed for fast, safe travel, motorways also restrict the types of vehicle that are allowed to go on them - pedestrians, cyclists, tractors and other slow moving vehicles are not allowed on the motorway.
Indicated by an M in the road name and featuring blue road signs, motorways have a maximum speed limit of 70mph that applies to vans and cars (60mph if you're towing a trailer).
However, many motorways (and some dual carriageways) now have variable speed limits, indicated by digital signs on overhead gantries that pass over the road. If you see these displaying a number lower than 70 on a white background surrounded by a red circle then that is the legal maximum speed for that stretch of road at that point in time.
The variable speed limit remains in place until you pass under another sign showing a different speed or the national speed limit sign. The national speed limit sign means the road has returned to its usual maximum limit.
What is the national speed limit sign?
The National Speed Limit is the maximum speed allowed on each type of road. Most roads in built-up areas have specifically numbered speed limit signs - 20, 30, 40 or 50 in a red circle, indicating the fastest you are allowed to travel, while county roads, dual carriageways and motorways typically use the national speed limit sign instead.The national speed limit sign is a white circle with a black diagonal line from the top right to the bottom left. It's also one of the most confusing roadsigns in the UK, as it stands for different speeds on different roads.
On a country lane, it means the maximum speed is 60mph for cars and 50mph for vans. On a dual carriageway it means 70mph for cars, 60mph for vans. And on the motorway it means 70mph for cars andvans.
What does maximum laden mass mean?
The term 'maximum laden mass' means the same as maximum authorised mass (MAM), revenue weight and gross vehicle weight (GVW).All of these refer to the total legal weight of the vehicle with everything on board, including the people.
How much can you be fined for speeding?
While many speeding offences are dealt with by a Fixed Penalty Notice (FPN), if you go to court for speeding you can be fined up to 175% of your weekly salary.This goes for cars as well as vans and pickups.
The fine is capped at £2,500 on the motorway, £1,000 on more minor roads, with the final value split into three bands, depending on how far over the limit you were caught.
Under Band A, the court can impose a fine in the range of 25-75% of your weekly salary. You will also receive three penalty points.
Band A speeding offences:
- > 21-30mph when the speed limit is 20mph
- > 31-40mph when the speed limit is 30mph
- > 41-55mph when the speed limit is 40mph
- > 51-65mph when the speed limit is 50mph
- > 61-80mph when the speed limit is 60mph
- > 71-90mph when the speed limit is 70mph
Band B speeding offences:
- > 31-40mph when the speed limit is 20mph
- > 41-50mph when the speed limit is 30mph
- > 56-65mph when the speed limit is 40mph
- > 66-75mph when the speed limit is 50mph
- > 81-90mph when the speed limit is 60mph
- > 91-100mph when the speed limit is 70mph
However, the guidelines also explicitly state: ‘Where an offender is driving grossly in excess of the speed limit the court should consider a disqualification in excess of 56 days.’ So that’s not a set limit.
Band C speeding offences:
- > 41mph and above when the speed limit is 20mph
- > 51mph and above when the speed limit is 30mph
- > 66mph and above when the speed limit is 40mph
- > 76mph and above when the speed limit is 50mph
- > 91mph and above when the speed limit is 60mph
- > 101mph and above when the speed limit is 70mph
Is it worse to get caught speeding in a van?
Frankly, yes. When announcing the guidelines above, the UK Sentencing Council that sets the fines and other penalties categorically confirmed that the type of vehicle will be taken into account.As such, speeding in a van or other goods vehicle will be considered worse because the vehicle’s size and weight increases the potential danger involved in exceeding the legal limit.
Other things that will make a speeding offence more serious include the weather conditions, the number of people on board and the location – such as near a school, in traffic or where there are high numbers of pedestrians.
Should I rely on my sat-nav knowing the speed limit?
No. Speed limits often change more quickly than the databases used by satellite-navigation mapping services are updated. And they often don’t account for the type of vehicle being driven, either.
It is much better to rely on the physical speed limit signs. If in doubt, err on the side of caution.
The same goes for the new-fangled speed limit displays that are popping up in some modern cars and vans, which use cameras to read road signs and display them on the dashboard. These systems can - and frequently do - make mistakes.
Also read:
>> Campervan speed limits>> Van and pickup tax explained
>> Best pickup trucks
>> Car-derived vans explained
>> Commercial 4x4s explained
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What miles is it on? I've never managed to get a mitsy past 120k without engine rebuild, the others I know of locally needed rebuild earlier than that (been told by the garage I was lucky to get 120 as 80-90 is the magic number for them?) Had 300k on a hilux no issues. I still have a soft spot for the Mitsys but I wouldn't keep one long term again. I guess it's the same as the navaras snapping, if you are one of the lucky ones and it doesn't happen then who cares. If you aren't so lucky and need engine rebuild or chassis repair then bit different.So I can do 70mph on motorways in our old L200 ?
Had it six years and 60k miles , only changed the front callipers and general servicing