Planting Trees

[flowerpot]

We had our little booklet this weekend. My son's reaction was "who would plant trees on an arable field worth around £8,000 an acre that produces a crop every year, and put trees on it that reduces its value to £4,000 and there is nothing to harvest for 25 years."

Discuss

 

[kfpben]

Your son is a wise man and will go far

 

[Kevtherev]

Trees should be planted on lesser unproductive land.

 

[Dave6170]

Hes hit the nail on the head!

 

[flowerpot]

I'm trying to think of some. We have 4 grass fields, all the rest is arable. We have quite a lot of grass keep, but that is owned by someone else obviously.

 

[flowerpot]

Maybe things will become clearer, but he is going to take some persuading.

 

[Muddyroads]

Because they will absorb moderate amounts of carbon that will supposedly change the world.



Then a few years later, they’ll either die from a disease like sudden oak death or ash die back, or they will be burnt and release all the carbon back into the atmosphere!

 

[renewablejohn]

Dont expect to get paid for the trees if our woodland grant is anything to go by. Forestry commission stopped paying in 2015 when they changed the original agreement.

 

[Gedd]

We had our little booklet this weekend. My son's reaction was "who would plant trees on an arable field worth around £8,000 an acre that produces a crop every year, and put trees on it that reduces its value to £4,000 and there is nothing to harvest for 25 years."

Discuss

That's my argument in 20 years time when they realise that they need food that land has gone without a lot of time and expenditures

 

[Stw88]

Several large estates that I know of have kicked off/ ended tenancies to plant the (very good) Inbye land and leaving the hill to put into as many schemes as they can. I think this is very bad advice from agents who are just looking to take the quick buck. 10/20 years time when food is wanted there going to be left with a load of crap ground that will Be so rough its good for nothing and even if it could be pulled round there will be no inbye land to be able to farm it properly.
Only benefit is that those of us that are left will do better.

 

[A Sales representative]

I’m by no means a plant hugging lefty, but trees on to poorer land Trees in field corners to create areas of biodiversityFor good arable land

 

[onthehoof]

We had our little booklet this weekend. My son's reaction was "who would plant trees on an arable field worth around £8,000 an acre that produces a crop every year, and put trees on it that reduces its value to £4,000 and there is nothing to harvest for 25 years."

Discuss

On the other hand if its crap hill land worth 2K an acre you could increase its value to 4K an acre

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I’m by no means a plant hugging lefty, but trees on to poorer land[emoji106] Trees in field corners to create areas of biodiversity[emoji106]For good arable land[emoji107]

Don't think its good to plant on Peaty soil, but you can hardly do anything on old wet meadows , they won't let you plant it then will they

 

[Paul E]

Plenty of lazy people will seriously consider it, if the annual payment rivals the GM of wheat.

 

[Agriimark]

Been planting some this week. Making use of land we do not do much with due to it's shape and size.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Trees should be planted on lesser unproductive land.

but not on peat, as it causes carbon to be released, and if we are thinking of global warming, I have read reports that show grassland sequests more carbon than forests do, having said that, old growth woods should never be cut down, as replanting does not replace what is lost. It is also lovely to see areas of trees, so the odd corner or bank is ok. What annoys me is the "wokies" saying, fine to fly as I am planting trees to offset.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

On the other hand if its crap hill land worth 2K an acre you could increase its value to 4K an acre

but if we are ever paid for sequesting carbon (who knows), you may be locking yourself out of that by planting.

 

[toquark]

There is an extremely strong argument for planting poor quality and hill land with commercial forest. There is an equally strong argument for not planting productive grassland/arable land.

With the current big push being largely government (subsidy) driven, we can pretty much guarantee that land will be planted that shouldn’t be and land that probably should be planted won’t be.

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

There is an extremely strong argument for planting poor quality and hill land with commercial forest. There is an equally strong argument for not planting productive grassland/arable land.

With the current big push being largely government (subsidy) driven, we can pretty much guarantee that land will be planted that shouldn’t be and land that probably should be planted won’t be.

And in 20 years time get paid to clear it and plant with a crop.

 

[ORRA LOON]

These are the trees you want, only planted last summer and harvesting now