Rates of pay

[Still Farming]

Are you a farmer? Buy one and try it, its not all fendts ,range rovers and skiing holidays. Take a look at many of the limited company farm accounts available to view online and see the debts

And youngsters in the industry where pay is only £4-£6 an hour too ?

 

[Hilly]

Hi,

So I am curious as to what self employed farm workers are charging or getting paid these days,
I charge £11/hr and 45p/mile for diesel whenever I am using my pickup for work going round the fields ect...

I provide a pickup that I use to do any job asked of me, 5ks worth of tools so I can take on most jobs away from the workshop and my own trailer that gets used a lot around the farm for a variety of jobs

Where I am currently working I have been doing work for them for over 10 years,
I am mostly a yard based worker around the stores, potato wash and grading facility but I do a lot of loader and forklift work too
I do most of the soil sampling across the fields, I go and do all the sample digging of the potato crops before harvest and clocked up over 1500 miles in the weeks before harvest doing this

I cover for the store manager when he has weekends off or goes on holiday

I have a lot of equipment experience and have run potato planters and other machinery,

So what should I be charging as I feel like I’m not compensating for my expenses but don’t want to be undercut by someone else if I put my rates up

Kind regards

Jordan

I think you should be employed .

 

[Hilly]

Thats farming

Tenner a hr is poor these days very very poor , you get a moron for a tenner an hr nothing more .

 

[DRC]

Great many self employed trailer jockeys and general farm workers are on a tenner, all very well people quoting £15-18/hr but the worker would be earning more than the farmer.

Is that relevant though . Big contractor that comes here, says him and his sons draw £2/300 week out of the business , whereas the two full time drivers, earn £1k week .

 

[Hilly]

Is that relevant though . Big contractor that comes here, says him and his sons draw £2/300 week out of the business , whereas the two full time drivers, earn £1k week .

Exactly , but I bet the boss and the sons still better off than the worker.

 

[Breckland Boy]

For General farm work ?

The op asked what was the going rate.
He listed a number of jobs and responsibilities that he has. He also mentioned that he used his vehicle, tools and plant to carry out the various tasks.
My figure is based on the above as a self employed person. I am assuming he is correctly insured, pays his tax, ni and is sensible enough to pay into a pension or another savings scheme for his and his families benefit in the future.
If the op is working on this farm day after day, week after week he probably should be employed and then entitled to the benefits of employment ( sick pay, holidays and pension contributions).
If the business he is working for had to provide the truck, tools and plant and pay his wage and the associated costs of employing staff it would probably cost more than the £200/day I quoted.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

This working for one business and pretending to be self employed is BS and it needs to stop. Tax man should be sorting this, it's just a way for employers to dodge NI contributions.

I'm a complete idiot and I can earn £10/hour employed doing farm work just because I know how to turn up on time. People playing the self employed game for that aren't doing themselves any favours.

Our 10 year old son earns £10/hr pushing the lawnmower around the neighbour's . Their mower!
Admittedly it's cash, but FFS

 

[Spencer]

How old is the OP?

 

[fieldfarmer]

£14- £15 per hour will get you very good people in the south west.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

The op asked what was the going rate.
He listed a number of jobs and responsibilities that he has. He also mentioned that he used his vehicle, tools and plant to carry out the various tasks.
My figure is based on the above as a self employed person. I am assuming he is correctly insured, pays his tax, ni and is sensible enough to pay into a pension or another savings scheme for his and his families benefit in the future.
If the op is working on this farm day after day, week after week he probably should be employed and then entitled to the benefits of employment ( sick pay, holidays and pension contributions).
If the business he is working for had to provide the truck, tools and plant and pay his wage and the associated costs of employing staff it would probably cost more than the £200/day I quoted.

And the rest.
Things like a vehicle and tools should really be on a "lease" arrangement, where an amount c.25% of their agreed value is paid, per year, over and above the salary/wage

 

[Still Farming]

National Minimum Wage and National Living Wage rates

The National Minimum Wage and National Living Wage rates: age, apprentices, previous years.

www.gov.uk

 

[fieldfarmer]

And the rest.
Things like a vehicle and tools should really be on a "lease" arrangement, where an amount c.25% of their agreed value is paid, per year, over and above the salary/wage

The mileage rate he quoted is in line with other sectors using there own vehicle for business use, never heard of the lease thing before.

 

[fieldfarmer]

Dont worry about me, get back to me when you get a farm job on £18/ hr.

I know a few on 38hrs x the £18 (salary) who still have to log on/ answer there odd email per hr make a few phone calls in their own time that if hrs were recorded properly wouldn't knock the ag sectors hourly rates.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

The mileage rate he quoted is in line with other sectors using there own vehicle for business use, never heard of the lease thing before.

That's how I ran my gear when I was managing, had about $40k worth of gear in use there and it meant I could keep up with depreciation, servicing etc. with $10k p.a. on top of my salary ($75-80k).

(Fuel was supplied).

Agree there is "use" and then there is "use", my stuff was in use for my job as opposed to get me to my job.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I think you should be employed .

Just be aware that if a worker decides when he leaves that he did not want to be SEP after all he can claim holiday and sickness pay back dated

 

[Hilly]

Hi,

So I am curious as to what self employed farm workers are charging or getting paid these days,
I charge £11/hr and 45p/mile for diesel whenever I am using my pickup for work going round the fields ect...

I provide a pickup that I use to do any job asked of me, 5ks worth of tools so I can take on most jobs away from the workshop and my own trailer that gets used a lot around the farm for a variety of jobs

Where I am currently working I have been doing work for them for over 10 years,
I am mostly a yard based worker around the stores, potato wash and grading facility but I do a lot of loader and forklift work too
I do most of the soil sampling across the fields, I go and do all the sample digging of the potato crops before harvest and clocked up over 1500 miles in the weeks before harvest doing this

I cover for the store manager when he has weekends off or goes on holiday

I have a lot of equipment experience and have run potato planters and other machinery,

So what should I be charging as I feel like I’m not compensating for my expenses but don’t want to be undercut by someone else if I put my rates up

Kind regards

Jordan

Can you also provide holiday cover and sick cover for yourself ?

 

[Still Farming]

Work place pensions schemes Law also.

 

[serf]

the NZ snowflake leader is on £300k odd for looking over a handful of folks , so I think the pay may diff a bit over there !

 

[Brisel]

the NZ snowflake leader is on £300k odd for looking over a handful of folks , so I think the pay may diff a bit over there !

They've just "taken one for the team" by volunteering for a pay cut too. The cost of living in NZ is quite different too. Many items are much more expensive.

 

[serf]

They can afford to take a token pay cut too when there on that sort of wedge , only for six month though