Sheep pushed reed out 8 weeks before due?

[Farmer_Joe]

had a few last year which was weird, (normally have maybe 1 every other year?) prob around 10+, tagged i believe all but 2 (missed them) but culled all tagged ones,

just checking feeders and spotted on with reed out again but there not due till 1st april!!!!

whats going on!

i really hope its one from last year i missed culling!

could have been rigged i suppose ive seem em do that before...

 

[yellowbelly]

Don't know whether it's relevant to your breed but always led to believe it had something to do with ringing their tails too short.

 

[Farmer_Joe]

Home bred texel cross, same tail length as Normal
tail length surely wife’s tale excuse the pun!

 

[Al R]

What’s Reed out?

 

[yellowbelly]

What’s Reed out?

Rectal prolapse.

 

[Farmer_Joe]

Rectal prolapse.

out of vagina, pushes her ‘ guts’ out it cone out of her vagina but it’s her rectal jazz that comes out

 

[Al R]

Ok, never seen it and we’ve always ringed, I thought it was vaginal prolapse as I was going to say I get more prolapses with the 20% long tailed ewes than the 80% of the flock short tailed.

how are they being fed? When we were snacking all twins and triplets we’d get 30-40/600 twins. Since I’ve moved to all green crop and no hard feeding or chasing snackers/being stressed running after a snacker or to troughs I’m down to sub 5 prolapses with 1000 twins/triplets

 

[Farmer_Joe]

Ok, never seen it and we’ve always ringed, I thought it was vaginal prolapse as I was going to say I get more prolapses with the 20% long tailed ewes than the 80% of the flock short tailed.

how are they being fed? When we were snacking all twins and triplets we’d get 30-40/600 twins. Since I’ve moved to all green crop and no hard feeding or chasing snackers/being stressed running after a snacker or to troughs I’m down to sub 5 prolapses with 1000 twins/triplets

It is out of vagina we always called it Reed out perhaps the local lingo is different?

 

[yellowbelly]

out of vagina, pushes her ‘ guts’ out

That's what we call a ruptured vaginal prolapse. What we call a reed down here is the last part of the intestine just inside the anus.

Another case of us being "divided by a common language"

 

[Farmer_Joe]

Ok, never seen it and we’ve always ringed, I thought it was vaginal prolapse as I was going to say I get more prolapses with the 20% long tailed ewes than the 80% of the flock short tailed.

how are they being fed? When we were snacking all twins and triplets we’d get 30-40/600 twins. Since I’ve moved to all green crop and no hard feeding or chasing snackers/being stressed running after a snacker or to troughs I’m down to sub 5 prolapses with 1000 twins/triplets

Just on silage,

I only hard feed afterscanning 6 weeks before lambing,

caught one rigged other day in same lot, they are on ‘scarifies’ rough fields pre scanning then I move them all, she may have been rigged and pushed it out when stressed

 

[Al R]

Just on silage,

I only hard feed afterscanning 6 weeks before lambing,

caught one rigged other day in same lot, they are on ‘scarifies’ rough fields pre scanning then I move them all, she may have been rigged and pushed it out when stressed

She either did it last year and you didn’t cull her OR she was born from a prolapse ewe in the passed. We’ve never kept any progeny off a ewe that has prolapsed and prolapse numbers have certainly dropped.

 

[Farmer_Joe]

I hope its one of the 2 I misssed last year with cull tag, I get rid as you do it’s not worth the risk!

 

[puppet]

Just on silage,

I only hard feed afterscanning 6 weeks before lambing,

caught one rigged other day in same lot, they are on ‘scarifies’ rough fields pre scanning then I move them all, she may have been rigged and pushed it out when stressed

If vaginal have you pushed it in and a harness otherwise guts will follow

 

[Farmer_Joe]

If vaginal have you pushed it in and a harness otherwise guts will follow

Always use spoons That might also be a local word

 

[Al R]

Always use spoons That might also be a local word

Stitch. The shearers will pick it up if she rips out the cull tag

 

[Farmer_Joe]

Stitch. The shearers will pick it up if she rips out the cull tag

Ha ha I shear them I did see one that had bale band in it fleece but no cull tag I only have my self to blame

 

[JSmith]

If it’s vaginal prolapse is it not just from being heavy in lamb an a build up of pressure due to being short on space in the gut/stomach area. Generally get one or two closer to lambing than the OP, put spoons in an nine out of ten lamb not a problem and are fine afterwards! Lock them up on short rations usually helps

 

[neilo]

I had my first prolapse of the year today, in ewes due from the end of Feb. Put back in, harness on & jabbed, and all happy until lambing hopefully.

I’ve always culled anything that prolapsed, as soon as they were weaned but, after a thread or two on here, where people reckoned they didn’t cull for it/never had repeat offenders/etc, I gave a couple an extra chance last year, having recorded it obviously.

Yep, she was one of them! Bloody TFF experts...

 

[Pistonbroke]

Our old vet reckoned that low calcium reduces muscle tension and causes most prolapses. Could d be bolox though

 

[neilo]

Our old vet reckoned that low calcium reduces muscle tension and causes most prolapses. Could d be bolox though

I’m sure it doesn’t help. I chucked a bag of loose GP minerals in when I went down to collect this ewe, for just that reason.