Should ethnic minorities & 'yoofs' be allowed to delete our history?

[Bones]

I am content that Tony Blair apologised for the Irish potato famine






Am I fudge. What an idiot. You cannot rewrite history, only learn from it unless you’re Henry Ford (or The Donald)

David Cameron also apologised for what some British soldiers did in northern Ireland

 

[An Gof]

The home secretary has no power to remove him, that is the job of the local police commissioner

She can bring pressure to bear ...

 

[jendan]

Better ban the singing of this too while they're at it. Written by the former slave trader, John Newton in the 1770's.

Depends how far they want to go?

John Newtons life was fascinating.A very interesting read for anyone.

 

[Swarfmonkey]

However, many of us who are white English who have sisters and daughters are rightly ashamed about parts of our history which involves sexual exploitation, such as the fact that black slave girls under the age of 5 were sold at auction to white men to fulfil their sexual desires.

Seems a bit odd to me. Why are you "ashamed" of something that you didn't have anything to do with that occurred long before you were born? It was hardly your fault!

 

[Danllan]

Please read my post, I was referring to a statue for Muslim soilders not a combined memorial? We have memorials for our own dead in every city, how about a few independent ones for the 89,000 muslims who also gave their lives?

With regards to this thread, it is impossible to delete history. However, many of us who are white English who have sisters and daughters are rightly ashamed about parts of our history which involves sexual exploitation, such as the fact that black slave girls under the age of 5 were sold at auction to white men to fulfil their sexual desires. I for one have no issue with the government approved removal of statues of anyone who was involved in a trade which assisted paedophiles and the sale of children, or the sale of young women to be used as comfort women (sex slaves) for dirty old white men to systematically sexually abuse and rape on a daily basis.

That is even more f^cking stupid! They didn't fight because they were Muslims, they fought because they'd taken the King's salt. And, anyway, they'd have regarded themselves as Indian back then.

Focussing on Islam, what about their paedophilic prophet? Should all reference to him be done away with too, or is that alright because it was the of things there and then and he was a Muslim? Many might argue that a whole philosophy and culture founded on this man is repugnant and should be removed from the UK, with Government approval of course.

With regards to the rest of your post, I don't know how you can live with yourself; you seem to want to get angry and disassociate yourself from so many terrible white men, does this extend to not using anything convenient they built or created, or is it only stuff of no use to you? You seem very selective in the application of your morals, but that's alright, because you're right...

 

[Steevo]

The British and the Empire are often criticised for historically going over to other countries, decimating their culture, and imposing on them British views, religion and culture and instigating such change with no regard for those that already live there.

 

[manhill]

I wonder how many of the descendants of slaves living in the US would want to swap lives with the descendants of those left behind in Africa years ago, from where I'm looking those in the US have a far better life now than millions still living in Africa.
That's not saying slavery was right

and it the slave traders hadn't been so tight they could have brought them over on signed contracts and paid them with trinkets. Sounds familiar?

 

[Steevo]

Whatever the view anyone holds on this - the timing of all of this when we have a pandemic on our hands is not wise.

Lives have been risked and will likely be lost after the actions of the crowds this weekend.

 

[Bones]

Hmm... that's you two receipted and filed as f^cking idiots. Let's just deconstruct your comments...

I don't want historical revisionism in the UK, least of all as dictated by an undemocratic minority in mob form. Yet, for you two, that extrapolates to wanting an enemy of the UK and a notorious paedophile celebrated. I am intrigued, please enlighten us as to the reasoning of how you reached that conclusion.

There must be a really good nexus there somewhere, surely; otherwise you'd just be throwing abuse at someone you disagree with because you've no arguments to support your own preferred narrative.

you just need to calm down a little bit ,

 

[Tarw Coch]

Whatever the view anyone holds on this - the timing of all of this when we have a pandemic on our hands is not wise.

Lives have been risked and will likely be lost after the actions of the crowds this weekend.

And not just amongst those who have taken part, they will help the spread to others.

 

[bobk]

Just flicked over to Sky news who are covering the funeral of the habitual criminal who was wrongly killed , f**kin sickening .
How many white people have been murdered in retaliation .

 

[Bald Rick]

Just flicked over to Sky news who are covering the funeral of the habitual criminal who was wrongly killed , fudgein sickening .
How many white people have been murdered in retaliation .

I note that the media are referring to George Floyd as the “gentle giant”.

I suggest that we petition them to refer to Adolf “The Prankster” Hilter, Myra “Cheeky Girl” Hindley and Harold “What’s he like” Shipman for a start

 

[bobk]

I note that the media are referring to George Floyd as the “gentle giant”.

I suggest that we petition them to refer to Adolf “The Prankster” Hilter, Myra “Cheeky Girl” Hindley and Harold “What’s he like” Shipman for a start

Bring back lockdown

 

[Smith31]

That is even more f^cking stupid! They didn't fight because they were Muslims, they fought because they'd taken the King's salt. And, anyway, they'd have regarded themselves as Indian back then.

Focussing on Islam, what about their paedophilic prophet? Should all reference to him be done away with too, or is that alright because it was the of things there and then and he was a Muslim? Many might argue that a whole philosophy and culture founded on this man is repugnant and should be removed from the UK, with Government approval of course.

With regards to the rest of your post, I don't know how you can live with yourself; you seem to want to get angry and disassociate yourself from so many terrible white men, does this extend to not using anything convenient they built or created, or is it only stuff of no use to you? You seem very selective in the application of your morals, but that's alright, because you're right...

I thought this thread was about OUR history and Ethnic minorities, so I commented on the contribution which foreign soldiers had made to our countries history and how most principled English folk don't wish to support statutes of folk who were involved in the child sex trade, you have some how brought islam in to it?

Jimmy Saville has more to do with this thread then Islam? Read the title Ethnic Minorities, the soldiers who sacrificed their lives for Britain came from what is now known as Pakistan and Bangladesh.

 

[livestock 1]

Do police not offer the same level of discretion to the travelling community?

Not seen the travelling community wreck a monument in a city filmed on tv before so it’s difficult to agree with you

 

[Smith31]

Seems a bit odd to me. Why are you "ashamed" of something that you didn't have anything to do with that occurred long before you were born? It was hardly your fault!

Ashamed meaning- Embarrassed or guilty of ones actions characteristics, or associations

As a Englishman I am ashamed that the church and the country allowed the sale of under age black slave girls to be used as sexual slaves.

In a similar fashion, when I am abroad and other tourists mention Jimmy Saville during a conversation, I am also ashamed of his actions and the disgust he has brought to our country.

 

[Danllan]

i think this guy sums the situation up perfectly. @Danllan should probably of put up this link and left it there ?

Wasn't aware until he was posted on here; a very intelligent and articulate fellow. With the exceptions of using the word 'axe' instead of 'ask' and the 'God' stuff, I agree entirely with his sentiments. That video rather begs the question as to why the 'leaders' of the black community in the US are such time wasters when there are fellows of his obvious calibre...

John Newtons life was fascinating.A very interesting read for anyone.

Very true, I read a biography of him by Aitken, a remarkable man.

you just need to calm down a little bit ,

Not in the least excited, and I haven't used hyperbole; you only write that to try and appear 'grown up'; you have no rational reply to my earlier post, perhaps trying to deflect from that...

I thought this thread was about OUR history and Ethnic minorities, so I commented on the contribution which foreign soldiers had made to our countries history and how most principled English folk don't wish to support statutes of folk who were involved in the child sex trade, you have some how brought islam in to it?

Jimmy Saville has more to do with this thread then Islam? Read the title Ethnic Minorities, the soldiers who sacrificed their lives for Britain came from what is now known as Pakistan and Bangladesh.

I didn't bring JS into this thread, I merely responded to an idiot that did, nor did I raise the subject of historical sex crime; but since it was raised I mentioned Mohamed, if you aren't aware of the Islamic Prophet's child sex history, read up. The soldiers of the Indian Army came from all over... India.

 

[Ukjay]

What I want to know is why they didnt create such a fuss when Lee Rigby was murdered - as he was innocent...

Double standards if you ask me - hence why I see this as nothing more than a racially motivated movement that is going to have dire consequences for many innocent people.
And as for removing the statues etc - grow the f**k up. It was hidtory and as such should remain as reminders of what was, but is no longer..

 

[czechmate]

What I want to know is why they didnt create such a fuss when Lee Rigby was murdered - as he was innocent...

Double standards if you ask me - hence why I see this as nothing more than a racially motivated movement that is going to have dire consequences for many innocent people.
And as for removing the statues etc - grow the fudge up. It was hidtory and as such should remain as reminders of what was, but is no longer..

Says the man whose very first post on here was how to destroy agricultural history !
?

 

[Bones]

Wasn't aware until he was posted on here; a very intelligent and articulate fellow. With the exceptions of using the word 'axe' instead of 'ask' and the 'God' stuff, I agree entirely with his sentiments. That video rather begs the question as to why the 'leaders' of the black community in the US are such time wasters when there are fellows of his obvious calibre...


Very true, I read a biography of him by Aitken, a remarkable man.


Not in the least excited, and I haven't used hyperbole; you only write that to try and appear 'grown up'; you have no rational reply to my earlier post, perhaps trying to deflect from that...


I didn't bring JS into this thread, I merely responded to an idiot that did, nor did I raise the subject of historical sex crime; but since it was raised I mentioned Mohamed, if you aren't aware of the Islamic Prophet's child sex history, read up. The soldiers of the Indian Army came from all over... India.

Now then, now then, now then, what have we here,