Sipma

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Couldn’t remember the story but remembered there was one…
I bought a Sipma round baler a few years back. It couldn’t cope with haylage or damp hay as grass built up on the feed roller.
I wouldn’t know what their latest products or back up is like so can’t comment further.
Funnily enough I was thinking of getting round to re engineering the baler the other day now there’s room in the shed after selling the old combine. Anyway I digress. After my experience I’d be extremely wary. That’s all I’m saying, but if they’ve improved or put things right then give them a chance eh?
 

Wellytrack

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I bought a Sipma round baler a few years back. It couldn’t cope with haylage or damp hay as grass built up on the feed roller.
I wouldn’t know what their latest products or back up is like so can’t comment further.
Funnily enough I was thinking of getting round to re engineering the baler the other day now there’s room in the shed after selling the old combine. Anyway I digress. After my experience I’d be extremely wary. That’s all I’m saying, but if they’ve improved or put things right then give them a chance eh?

Im not in the habit of talking tackle down just for the sake of it, generally I find most decent mainstream grass gear is a good as the next thing.
I’d contradict myself however when it comes to balers there is so little time or hours to grab the stuff you can’t take the chance on a machine not doing it.

Would be interested to see what you consider doing to improve your baler, perhaps take a look at how some other brands get around it?
 

Wellytrack

Member
Found a few McHale today and made a few inquiries , my wife has been looking for me this afternoon as she thinks i should spend a bit more , not have trouble and then not come home in a bad mood.

Your wife reckons you should spend more? Oh my days.. What kind of trickery is this 🤔🤔

Buy a new one if you like, 5k on a 991 BE from a reputable dealer will go far too.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Im not in the habit of talking tackle down just for the sake of it, generally I find most decent mainstream grass gear is a good as the next thing.
I’d contradict myself however when it comes to balers there is so little time or hours to grab the stuff you can’t take the chance on a machine not doing it.

Would be interested to see what you consider doing to improve your baler, perhaps take a look at how some other brands get around it?
The baler is I think a copy of a Krone of some sort. It did sixty bales of silage but had a lot of problems with grass sticking to the roller in the chamber. This in turn played havoc with the netter.
It might have been alright in straw but didn’t get that far as a big build up grass on the roller bent the front plate out and cracked some welds. I need to get round to sorting it out. It maybe needs a different roller coating, better stripper bar and also a stronger net knife.
It didn’t help that it failed on a steep hillside trying to bale windrows that had been incorrectly tedded but this was the culmination of constant problems on the flat.
To be fair my John Deere 550 wasn’t much better in grass/clover silage but fortunately I didn’t sell it so just carried on using it.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
It was a shame Sipma wouldn’t engage with any admission of a fundamental problem or cooperate with a design mod or work around as other than that the baler was nearly there and was well made. The design just wasn’t quite right. But hey ho.
 

wurzell1976

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Somerset
Your wife reckons you should spend more? Oh my days.. What kind of trickery is this 🤔🤔

Buy a new one if you like, 5k on a 991 BE from a reputable dealer will go far too.
5K is plenty for me ,as long as it does the job and leaves me with no debt.I thought the wife had a motive but she has everything a farmer's wife needs and was just thinking about my stress levels.
 

wurzell1976

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Somerset
The baler is I think a copy of a Krone of some sort. It did sixty bales of silage but had a lot of problems with grass sticking to the roller in the chamber. This in turn played havoc with the netter.
It might have been alright in straw but didn’t get that far as a big build up grass on the roller bent the front plate out and cracked some welds. I need to get round to sorting it out. It maybe needs a different roller coating, better stripper bar and also a stronger net knife.
It didn’t help that it failed on a steep hillside trying to bale windrows that had been incorrectly tedded but this was the culmination of constant problems on the flat.
To be fair my John Deere 550 wasn’t much better in grass/clover silage but fortunately I didn’t sell it so just carried on using it.
I run a Claas 250 and it does a great job baling around 1200 bales a year.I nearly went for a belt baler when i bought this place ,but was advised against it,the belts would get damaged by the stone .
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
On the subject of wrappers we have an Elho that fits on the back of the tractor and for years it worked fine. It would wrap even the softest sloppiest undersized bale but one year we thought we’d give it a birthday and took the chain off between the two rollers to shorten it a bit as it was very slack. We put the chain back on but maybe got it on the wrong sprockets but from then on it really struggled to wrap anything but the firmest roundest bale. Soft bales seemed to slump between the rollers which would then skid and not turn the bale and get it even more out of shape. I checked the sprockets in the manual and we seemed to have the chain on the right ones for bale size and overlap etc but the machine was never the same again. Another of those mysteries where trying to do the right thing wrecked it. Nearly drove us mad trying to wrap the silage especially with the allsorts out of the sipma, some with no net, some with about 35 layers.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
The JD550 won’t bale really dry stuff. It wing start a bale.
We went back to small bale hay and straw about 3 years ago as sheep numbers were small. Now sheep numbers are increasing again we need to sort out the round bale side of things.
 

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